WYCU Part 2 – Bladerunner(s)

(This was originally published as Implausipod Episode 53 on December 13th, 2025.)

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We continue with our look at the WYCU, stopping at the Bladerunners, and figuring out how they fit within the timeline?  Let’s journey to the dark… future(?) of 2019 and find out what happened on those off-world colonies, as we look at Blade Runner (1982), iRobot (2004), Soldier (1998), and Blade Runner 2049 (2017).

 (Also, a spoiler warning: we cover a lot in these 4 films). 

We’re doing something different in our (re)watch: we’ve been watching the titles chronologically.  Not by release, but by where they fit within the timeline.  


Let’s take a look at the future of Los Angeles 27 years from now in 2019. Hmm. Perhaps it’s the recent past. We’re looking for someone or something. More human than human. We’re looking for the baddest blade runner of them all. Welcome to the WYCU, the Weyland Yutani Cinematic Universe. It’s past time to take a look at one of the most enduring science fiction franchises.

Meta franchise and shared cinematic universe. Over the course of these four episodes of the ImplausiPod, we’re watching all 19 movies and one series in the WYCU, but we’re watching them with a twist. We’re not watching them in release order. We’re watching them chronologically as they appear in the timeline in universe, as they appear from historical times to the near and far future.

This is part two where we look at the Blade Runner universe, as well as a few titles that are tangentially connected to both Blade Runner and the WYCU, and try and figure out how it all fits together in this episode of the ImplausiPod.

Welcome to the ImplausiPod, a podcast about the intersection of art, technology, and popular culture. I’m your host, Dr. Implausible. So if we’ve been exploring the WYCU, the Weyland Yutani Cinematic Universe, what are we doing over in the Blade Runner extended universe? How did we get here If the Weyland Yutani Corp introduced in the first Alien movie in 1979 and an integral part of the series and Retconned as part of the Predator franchise in 1990s, Predator Two isn’t even explicitly mentioned in the two official Blade Runner films.

I think it goes without saying the beyond. Here. Be spoilers. Buckle in. Sometimes these points of connection are needle sharp, just a tiny little fish hook to hang a thread on, but a single thread is all we need. If we look at the original point of connection, the franchisal intersection between the aliens and predator continuity, it was simply the.

Prop of an alien skull included in the set dressing of the spaceship in Predator two. Just something to fill out the background, but there was enough thread on that story hook to tie together two franchises and weave together multiple stories into a fascinating meta franchise. And while the Xenomorph skull serves as a quilting point there to the Predator franchise, we can now link another thread to the alien universe to earth’s distant past back to.

2019, well, maybe not that far distant, but close enough to draw in the Blade Runner franchise, which includes both the original 1982 film as well as 2017s Blade Runner 2049, and a few tangentially related films. Let’s say. Given all that, what exactly are we talking about here when it comes to the Blade Runner films and where would it fit within the timeline of the WICU?

Let’s see how they’re all interlinked. Yes, interlink,

interlink. Blade Runner is perhaps best described as a neo noir proto cyberpunk film set in the Los Angeles of the distant future of 2019. That’s a lot of adjectives to describe what is essentially a sci-fi detective story directed by Ridley Scott off an adaptation of Philip K Dick’s 1968 novel Do Android’s Dream of Electric Sheep, and a screenplay written by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples.

The movie was originally released in 1982. And subsequently re-released multiple times after in slightly different versions, though we’ll get to more on that later. Starring Harrison Ford, who was well on his way to becoming a household name after the first two Star Wars picks, as well as Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, Darrell Hanna, and her brother Larry, and Edward James Almos in his pre-Adama phase.

Blade Runner is a story of a near future earth that has developed some artificial persons called Replicants and uses them as slave labor in hazardous locations like off world colonies. Several of them escape and make their way back to earth where they blend in and try and get more life. When a police detective is wounded, while interviewing one, a retired officer named Deckard is brought back to track down the remaining replicants.

So I guess we could say it’s really a story about immigration. Current events, so to speak. I’ll leave it to the lister’s imagination, what that makes. Deckard. The replicants are bio-engineered, but with a fatal flaw that they only have four year lifespan, so they set to work hunting down a means to extend this, we get dueling detectives as both Deckard and the replicants are chasing different targets through the cyberpunk city of a future Los Angeles.

The street level adventure takes place in and around the vendors, merchants, shops, and patrons of the near future that Just passed. Deckard follows the official channels and meets with the manufacturer of the Replicants, the Tyrell Corporation, and ends up talking with the founder, Eldon Tyrell. This takes place sometime after he had been a mentor to Peter Weyland, but we’ll have to talk about that in a later episode.

Though it does look like there’s a strong thread tied to that hook, Deckard tests, a young woman named Rachel, who he finds it very difficult to determine is actually a replicant due to Tyrell implanting memories in her so that her reactions are more genuine. They meet a bit later after a nightclub visit and interview goes poorly. 

We also soon meet Roy Batty, the leader of the Nexus six, who pursues his own investigation on the street and connects with another Nexus six named Pris, who has ingratiated herself with one of Tyrell’s chief engineers. Sebastian, though he doesn’t have his brothers, Darrell and Darrell living with him,

Unless they’re actually puppets. Batty gets Sebastian to take him to Tyrell, where he literally meets his maker and is informed that unfortunately, any attempt to extend his four year lifespan would result in catastrophic mutations and or painful death. Given this news, I think he takes it rather well.

Deckard catches up to Batty back at Sebastian’s recently vacated home apartment complex and attempts to complete his assignment. He’s nearly slain by Pris, but turns the tables and then engages in a wall smashing fight, ending on the rainy rooftop, one of the all time great soliloquy in cinema. It is really a great one.

I’d like to read the quote in full quote. I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watch sea beams glitter in the dark near the Atan Hauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. End quote. I know I don’t even do it justice, but that’s just epic.

Blade Runner is ultimately a story about humanity, about what it is that makes us human, about what we do with more life we have and how it is finite and precious. What would happen if you come face to face with your maker and learn that you are the way you are due to decisions made by a company? Would you react any differently?

There are questions we’d each have to ask ourselves when it comes to Blade Runner, the movie. A fun thing for me personally was that I quote unquote saw the movie shortly after release, but didn’t actually watch the movie until around three years later, when I was in my teens. I picked up the single issue, Marvel Comics adaptation of the movie that was released around the same time in

1982 if what is left of the search on the internet is still to be believed. And I read the heck outta that, just like any kid. Blade Runner is a seminal work in cyberpunk cinema it defines so much of the Neo Noire feel that many of the works in the genre emulated in the much the same way that the movie Tron from the same year defines so much about cyberspace.

We talked about Tron recently in a episode, if you want to track that down. So. Well, it might not be an influential work in something like the Appendix W on War Hammer 40 K. Aside from the Tyrell archeology showing up in things like the hive planets of Necromunda. Blade Runner is most definitely an influence on Appendix C or the cyber pedia or cyberpunk bookshelf or whatever we end up calling it.

Much like other works we’ve talked about. Both in the WYCU and the Appendix W. There’s a lot of ancillary tech in the Blade Runner universe, throwaway shots and effects that have as much or more impact than the tech. The movie is ostensibly about in honor of how much there is here in this two hour movie.

Let’s run through some of them. First off, the spinners, the iconic flying cars. Some days it feels like they’re the most fanciful piece of tech in the flick. And then the next day you see a video of someone modifying a drone for single person carrying capacity, and maybe you feel like they’re right around the corner.

Even the ground-based cars in Blade Runner had a near future vibe over-engineered and heavy and well driving on the heavily trucked streets of a modern city. You wouldn’t be shocked to see something right over a blade under there too. The digital image processor the Deckard uses to hunt for clues seems to be beyond us, but the hyper scaled enhancement of modern photo software isn’t that far off.

The cyber eyes seem to be inching closer to reality too, but these are closer to genetically designed than constructed the way we think about it. They have more in common with the bio-engineered animals. Even those seem to be more likely ever since Dolly was cloned and with de-extinction programs like that of the group working on the woolly mammoth fitting right in. The voight-kampff test used by Decker to test Rachel.

Basically an embodied turning test made real. Seems like we’ll need one right around the corner as well. AI detectors built into our desktops and, uh, phones at every moment. And the vast building of the Tyrell Corporation shows up later in cyberpunk fiction and gaming as an arcology, a massive self-contained building, housing, people, offices, factories, and often food production, retail and entertainment.

We don’t have them here really, but. There are some proposals and we might see them in our near future. The giant video to billboards adorning the sides of skyscrapers have finally become a reality. Thanks to cheap LEDs powering everything from Times Square, the sphere in Las Vegas and Shinkasen in Tokyo.

Even the all around hairdryer thing that Zhora uses can be found online for purchase, though it hasn’t become quite as institutionalized as we saw there. One of the things that may have contributed to the amount of ancillary tech that we see is that often it is actually just that tech devices things, not just software on a screen, but the imaginative ways of thinking about our electronic interactions within a near future material world.

The others that the movie has had one of the longest Timeframes for its influence to be felt and that tech to be developed. It’s a lot easier for throwaway tech to show up in the real world if you have a 40 plus year development cycle. Returning to the film, as we alluded to earlier, there are several different versions of the Blade Runner movie in existence.

The original theatrical cut, a director’s cut released at the start of the home video era, and an ultimate cut, which came out. The main difference is the removal of Deckard’s narration, which is a studio mandated edition before the movie was sent to theaters and put in there against Ridley Scott’s wishes.

There’s also an added scene with Deckard and Rachel making their way to the countryside, again, narrated by voiceover. The director’s cut makes it more ambiguous That Decker himself may be a replicant, but for me, I think the theatrical version was burned into my brain at a young age, and that it seems normal to me, but the director’s cut is an enjoyable watch as well, and not at all hard to follow without the narration.

Perhaps. We as audiences have gotten a little bit more savvy to sci-fi themes and tropes in the decades since the release of the film. It might be hard to prove, but one of the things that the various reissues and adaptations did was keep the single film franchise available and accessible for new audiences to find, whether it was from comic books like the one I read, or from the New Cuts, or for it always being available early on in new media cycles, which may be.

Aprocryphal, of course, but I recall it being available on DVD earlier than a lot of the other 20-year-old titles. There’s always been a version of Blade Runner available, and the audience interest has driven a growth in transmedia storytelling in much the same way that we’ve seen before, both within the WYCU as.

With the Predator titles and outside with Tron and other titles as well. Blade Runner made the leap quite well. The video games with the number of games set within the universe, tasking you with using your detective skills to solve them. Much of the WYCU is driven by those transmedia connections, which sometimes fill in the gaps between the films and sometimes expand the scopes of the stories being told.

But beyond those transmedia connections, here’s where it gets wild with how the Blade Runner franchise connects to the larger WYCU. Blade Runner is the first in the Blade Runner franchise Natch and the ninth movie overall in the expanded continuity. Even though we covered predator badlands in the previous podcast episode, we’re not quite sure where that one pops up.

It is definitely after this, we’ve got a definitive connection and interlink.

Interlink. We jumped forward from 2019 to 2035 where Chicago seems to be somehow cleaner and less rainy than la, but still kind of a mess. After a top scientist takes the express exit from a high story corner office, detective Spooner is brought in to investigate the potential homicide by request from the deceased, despite it being ruled to suicide.

Impressive. Like I said, top science. The investigation points towards one of the latest model robots as a suspect, despite them having been installed with the three laws of robotics at the factory. We’ll put a pin in those laws for a second and get back to them. Spooner is a cyborg, built stronger, better, and faster after a near fatal accidental run-in with a robot that led to the death of a young girl.

So he’s got some robo beef and doesn’t believe the marketing hype is a new line of robots is being rolled out across the country. This soon leads to an all out war against the robots, as the central AI that connects to all of them is using the bots to take control of humanity and stop the self-destructive course they’re on.

I mean. The AI isn’t necessarily wrong here, to be perfectly honest. Like the saying goes, every good villain should kind of have a point. Spooner and some others able to fight through the AI controlled robot hive mind to the central core inject it with some Nanite goop that was all the rage back in the 1990s

Comic books, which immediately ends the control of all the robots who are then decommissioned. It’s here where our diegetic interlink appears: a, weyland yutAni logo was stenciled on a case. iRobot is a 2004 film starring Will Smith. That is loosely and I mean very loosely based on the 1950 novel by Isaac Asimov.

That is to say it’s Asimov flavored in the same way that naturally flavored orange water may have passed within a few yards of an orange at some point. It’s Naturopathic Asimov is what I’m saying. Directed by Alex Poya. Off a screenplay ostensibly by Jeff Vinter and Akiva Goldsman. The movie also stars, Bridget Moynihan, Alan Tudyk, Chi McBride, and a Returning Nowhere Man is the CEO of the corporation.

We’re including iRobot in the chronology because of that Diegetic interlink that we just mentioned. Though it’s a singleton and we’re not included it in the Blade Runner franchise, it’s just slots in here during our chronological rewatch sitting as the 10th movie overall in the WYCU. 

I’ll admit, I came to see iRobot late as I didn’t get a chance to watch it in the theaters and ended up seeing it on DVD. I was getting a better sense of movies based on the trailers, and this one didn’t really appeal to me despite the subject matter and My having read the Asimov novel when I was young and impressionable. Of course, one of the big takeaways from Asimov’s writing was the three laws of robotics, A set of rules that were supposedly hardwired in the positronic brains of the robots.

They are as follows. One, a robot may not injure a human being or through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. Two. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders with conflict with the first law. And three, a robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with first or second law.

This gives us a framework for the robots to act in and functions as a plot device for stories to be based off of. Within Asimov’s works, the laws are also pretty sticky Memes and variations of them show up in stories by other sci-fi authors as well. The laws have been tweaked a bit, and a zero-eth law was added later.

The basis of which allowed Viki the AI in the movie to attempt to protect humanity from its own self-destructive tendencies. But we will hold off on this for a bit. I mean, we talk about it when we visit the foundation series sometime in 2026.

Like a lot of the sci-fi of the early two thousands. One of the things the movie does have going forward is the amount of ancillary tech that we see, including badge scanners, funky printouts, and display surfaces and the automobiles.

Often sci-fi vehicles look like something from a designer’s prototype lab, which is funny ’cause it’s true, but here it isn’t just Will Smith’s elite Personal coupe, but also the massive autonomously driven delivery vehicles with rolling slat sides that deliver the robots right to you, like an oversized Necron troop carrier.

Sorry, that last preference might be a bit obscure, but I’ll let you, the listener, bing that up. Most notably, however, among the ancillary tech is US robotics itself. US robots and mechanical men Was the company responsible for building the robots in the original novel by Asimov in line with the Tyrell Corp and Blade Runner, or Weyland Yutani themselves, but one that ended up becoming a real company?

As the firm, US Robotics, the famous makers of early computer modems and networking hardware was named as an homage to the original novel, and now operates under the name USR as a division of a larger corporation. Overall, the hooks and threads here, tying this into the WYCU, are thin and given how the whole larger Asimovian robots and foundation universe connects together.

Perhaps we don’t want to draw too tight of a connection, but what we’re seeing here with the development of both cyborg humans and synthetic forms of life finds us with a degree of consilience and overlap with the other entries, and not just the sequence here, but also the broader WYCU. However, there was more going on in 2035 than we expected.

Interlink.

Interlink 

and I say there’s more going on in 2035 because in 2036 the off world colonies are getting a little bit restless, much like they were back in 2019, but we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves. In 1996, a secret government military program begins training children to become ruthless soldiers, not universal ones, mind you, but close enough.

After countless battles on multiple planets, a new program of genetically engineered soldiers promises troops that are better, stronger, and faster than the ones that came before. After an internal contest. The old models are reduced to KP duty and the defeated Kurt Russell, Todd, 3, 4, 6, 5, is dumped on a trash planet.

Yes. Much like Star Wars planets can only be one thing in this universe too. Turns out there are survivors of a crashed colonist vessel there, and Todd slowly ends up getting accepted by the village. When the genetically engineered soldiers end up at the planet on a recon mission, their commander orders ’em to assault the planet to gain some combat experience, and Todd goes full Rambo on them.

With Rambo mode activated. This isn’t a close contest, obviously, and the MO movie ends with Todd and the surviving colonists and other soldiers making their way to the colonists’ original destination. I don’t mean to gloss over the details of the movie or give it short shrift, but the phrase, it’s not that deep serves us well here.

It is mostly an action movie with little dialogue uttered by the protagonist. Soldier starred Kurt Russell in the lead role and was released in 1998. Directed by Paul Anderson and written by David Webb Peeples. The cast also included Connie Nielsen, Jason Scott Lee, and Gary Busey returning to the WYCU after his gonzo turn in Predator two.

Maybe it was a distant relative though, given the movie is set in 2036, not that distant from 1997 of Predator two. Hmm. Underneath the surface, Soldier asks us similar questions to Blade Runner, wondering what makes us human. With the older model soldiers potentially being replaced by the newer quote unquote model that has been genetically engineered.

This engineering isn’t quite to the level of the replicants in Blade Runner, or at least not explicitly mentioned as such, but it could be, if we look at it ascance, we can see that there might be some overlap. Soldier doesn’t quite give us the level of detail on the genetic engineering going on for us to really make a determination one way or the other.

But that’s just one way to link it back to the WYCU. Soldier was described as existing within the Blade Runner universe by the writer David Webb Peoples a sidequel or spinoff. And aside from the aforementioned spinner on the junk planet, we see that Kurt Russell fought in some of the same battles as Roy Batty.

The TannHauser Gate and such, so that and the existence of the off world colonies themselves seem to be enough to connect them together. Even if the new model army soldiers might not be necessarily replicants, this would also put it second within our micro franchise and 11th within the larger WYCU.

Given the timeframe, it kind of does slot nicely in within the chronology though. We’ll explore that a bit more in depth near the end of this episode. I don’t think soldier really influenced much in terms of Appendix W, though the ridiculously oversized guns and the APCs do seem to draw a direct line between the real world and what we eventually see there, as does the genetically engineered soldiers.

Other than that, we’re not seeing a lot of instances of ancillary tech, either other than some of the weapons tech, and it’s almost kind of low tech in some instances, but it still fits within our timeline where those genetically engineered life forms are getting more prevalent back on earth. This is our last interlink.

Interlink 

Looks like a lot has happened in 30 years. We begin with some expository text letting us know that replicants still exist, but the Tyrell Corporation is no more having gone bankrupt after several rebellions, it has been succeeded by the Wallace Corporation, which has kept the Nexus product label for some reason.

Maybe this is like Lenovo buying the ThinkPad rights off of IBM, but you think that after your quote unquote product revolts, a couple times, someone in corporate might have put together a pitch deck for a new name. So maybe not that much has changed. After all, we’re treated to a car flying over a desaturated landscape, past solar power collectors and blasted farmland where hydroponics reign supreme, like we’re passing over the cucumber farms of Medicine Hat.

I’ll admit that might be a niche reference, so you can bing that up yourself. The car lands by a blasted and desiccated tree, and the pilot gets out to meet the farmer whose hands deep in his aquaculture business of algae and mealworms. Turns out he’s an escaped replicant who’s been hiding under the radar and he has soon retired, but not without a wall busting fight worthy of Roy Batty and Deckard from 30 years earlier.

But there’s more to the farm than expected. A LIDAR scan shows a chest that ends up containing human remains, humanoid at least. And this sets off our mystery for our detective, who we learned goes by Kay back at the police station without the escort needed for Deckard, we find out that Kay is a replicant, so nothing left ambiguity there.

Kay is shunned by the other officers and also needs to keep taking quote unquote baseline tests to make sure he is on the straight and narrow. I guess this is how they prevent the replicants from revolting it. Unsure. Kay lives alone in a small apartment with a holo girlfriend named Joy that he is clearly infatuated with.

She’s kinda like the virtual opposite of Robert Ricardo’s Doctor, but more along the lines of Cyborg Betty. So we have a relationship between two post-human characters, a genetically engineered human, and a virtual companion. It’s wild stuff if you think about it, but maybe that’s what it’s all about, post-human relationships, because that’s kind of what the first movie was about too,

when you get right down to it. Kay visits the Wallace Corporation as part of his investigation and we the audience meet with Wallace, the presumably Trillionaire, CEO, and designer of the company making replicants who has cyber eyes and a complete disregard for replicant life and is just as alien and post-human as the replicants and holograms.

Wallace also wants to find the secret for what was in the box, which contained the bones of Rachel from the first movie, who has apparently given birth, which means that Replicants may be able to reproduce. For Wallace, this would mean a massive expansion of his ability to produce colonists and labor for the off world colonies, as he wouldn’t have to continue with the presumably slow process of creating

Full-grown replicants and could just let nature take its course. So much like the first film, we get that duality, that mirrors the structure of the detective looking for something that others want to find for their own ends. This might be a trope that is endemic to detective fiction, to be honest, but I don’t consume or analyze a lot of detective stories.

It’s worth looking into though. Kay’s pursuit leads him to the memory of a specific date, 6 10 21, which would’ve been about two years after the first film, long enough time for the birth of a child if it was Rachel’s. This leads him further on the hunt for the mystery through an orphanage and his own memories where he thinks that he might be the actual child.

A memory crafter trapped in an isolation bubble lets him know the memory’s real, though. Real for who is the question. He finds Deckard in the radiated wasteland of Las Vegas, which doesn’t look that different now that the tourists have stopped going. However, they’re both ambushed by Wallace’s Pursuit team who kidnaps Deckard and takes him back to L.A. Wallace offers Deckard a recreated Rachel in exchange for the information, looking as she did 30 years ago.

Except the dev team botches her eye color and Deckard refuses. As he is escorted out. Kay manages to force the spinner he is being transported into the ocean, and a fist fight with the other replicant ensues, with Kay narrowly winning. Kay takes Deckard to meet his and Rachel’s daughter, the memory crafter in the bubble, and then lays down on the steps in the snow in LA

Directed by Denis Villeneuve and released in 2017. Blade Runner 2049 moves the timeline ahead by 30 years. Natch. The screenplay was written by Hampton Fancher and Michael Green and stars Ryan Gosling, as well as Anna D arma, Jared Leto and Harrison Ford and Edward James Olmos in a post Adama appearance.

2049 is the 12th film in the WYCU chronology and the third film in the Blade Runner meta franchise. Though by the time of its release, there were so many transmedia releases, tie in novels, shorts, and other pieces of content that it’s hard to really pin down a number, like a lot of Denis Villenuve movies. I had to watch this at home as I run the risk of passing out halfway through the movie.

It is visually stunning though, and deserves to be seen on the big screen. Much like the first movie, there are a number of interesting ancillary tech pieces that feel like might be decent candidates to see some real world invention, like the personal home holograph companion, along with subscription plan and upgrade packages.

Natch, as well as the holographic costume overlay and the memory sculptor as an Etsy artist, but for a lot of the tech, the movie feels too recent to be to say for sure. While Blade Runner 2049 has strong ties to the original Blade Runner film, it doesn’t really connect out from there to the larger WYCU.

That doesn’t mean it isn’t there as the more advanced models of replicant have more in common with the later synths that appear in Alien Earth and the Aliens franchise, though we’ll get to those connections when we come across them.

Ultimately, there are two questions we have to ask about these films in the franchise. One, does it fit with the technology? And two, does it work within the chronology? I think the answer is yes to both, but with a big asterisk in both cases as well. Tech-wise, the films work. There’s an interesting overlap between the diversity of approaches to transhumanism within the films, whether it is through life extension, artificial life cybernetics, genetic

Modification or psychological training. We see all of these throughout the films, and I believe we’ll see more of these forms of life in the later films as well. So we’ll stay tuned for how they connect in the next episode of the WYCU when we look at Alien Earth. The more challenging connection is the timeline.

Obviously Blade Runner now exists in our past with 2019 in the rear view mirror and the 2035 and 2036 of iRobot and Soldier coming up surprisingly quickly, and while humanoid robots are starting to feel like they’re just around the corner, off world colonies are more than a little way off, despite what some techno optimists might have you believe.

I think the solution here might just be to move the entire mini franchise or a section of the WYCU ahead 30 years, though granted iRobot could stay where it is. This would put Blade Runner, the original Blade Runner at 2049 instead of 2019, like the original movie with soldier taking place in 2066 and Blade Runner 2049 in 2079.

This also keeps this entire chain ahead of all the Alien films because the earliest alien film Prometheus is about 2093 in terms of the chronology. So let’s just give it a 30 year time jump, and that’ll get us to the third challenge introduced by the films with the off world colonies of Blade Runner, and Soldier, particularly.

These are also meant to imply extra-solar, not just planets within the solar system, but outside of it. While the Predator films obviously had extraterrestrials capable of interstellar travel visiting Earth on a surprisingly frequent basis, human-driven off world travel doesn’t appear to be in the cards

based on our current understanding of physics. It’s the one big lie behind most science fiction stories that if you get past that or find a way to hand wave it to your satisfaction, well then you have a whole galaxy to explore. But who knows what horrors, lurk in interstellar space. We will step away from the WYCU to visit the Fallout Universe prior to the release of the second season with perhaps a few other holiday stops along the way.

But then we’ll be back to pick up the final two parts of the WYCU early in 2026 with a look at Alien Earth and the Aliens Franchise. I hope you’ll join us for those.

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Streets Ahead

(This was originally published as Implausipod Episode 50 on November 8, 2025.)

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A wrong turn and a 20 minutes detour due to poor signage led to an inquiry into the evolution of autonomous vehicles. We’ll examine how the idea has appeared in popular culture, both within and outside science fiction. Turns out when it comes to self-driving cars, we’re thinking street ahead.


Get in. Let’s go for a ride. I wanna take you on a little trip around my town, down a few of the wide open roadways. We caught them at a perfect time of day. The city is still sleeping and the roads are mostly empty. It’s during these quiet times so we can see how the roads actually work. We’ve got a corner coming up here, but the main road continues this way for a bit before turning right to the north.

We continue around the city, but the exit on the right is actually for drivers continuing left towards the west. Curious. As we come through this lovely pass to see the city laid out before us, we come to the same issue. A quick turn to the right to go left to head to the west and the rocky mountains.

The road straight ahead is called Stony Trail North, but it’s headed east. Confused. You won’t be after this episode of the Implausipod.

Welcome to the ImplausiPod, a podcast about the intersection of art, technology, and popular culture. I’m your host, Dr. Implausible, and in this episode we’re asking who are roads for, are they built for the cars or the drivers? It’s an interesting question. One we have to ask more often as we’re seeing more and more self-driving cars on the road, the desire for autonomous vehicles has some deep roots and some of those cross through science fiction.

So it isn’t just because I accidentally took a wrong turn due to confusing road signs and had to take a 20 minute detour down the highway as described in the intro. No, no. That had nothing to do with today’s discussion, but the truth about those confusing road signs has a lot to do with our autonomous vehicles as well, because it’s difficult for us to navigate than how can anything else hope to understand it.

It turns out we have different and overlapping systems of direction that we use when we’re trying to navigate the world and humans having grown up in it. Generally pretty at adept at uh, parsing it out. But once you try and break it down and explain it to something, something that can only follow rules, it gets quite complex indeed.

So we’re gonna get into these rule-based systems in a little bit, but first I wanna look into the genesis of an idea of how the concept of self-driving vehicles came to be. Because what a vehicle that can move itself, that seems very implausible.

IMPLAUSIBILITY 0 1 4 Autonomous Vehicles

In this week’s implausibility, let’s take a look at how autonomous vehicles have shown up in science fiction in their various forms. It comes as no surprise given how prevalent automobiles have been in the 20th century, that the two have been combined so often. But one of the first instances wasn’t really a car at all. One of the earliest autonomous vehicles was a bulldozer.

And not just any bulldozer but the Killdozer. That’s right. Killdozer. First appearing in the 1944 short story of the same name by Theodore Sturgeon. Here we have a proper autonomous vehicle that decides to take revenge on the humans around it and the killdozer is autonomous. It has goals and agency, albeit those of the alien energy weapon that has possessed a normal construction bulldozer and it proceeds to fulfill its original programming.

Hence, the killing and the dozing. The rampage ends when the machine is electrocuted in a pool, going quiescent until it’s possible long-lost cousin shows up in the movie Idiocracy years later. Killdozer appears early. Science fiction had quite entered its golden age, so there weren’t that many stories yet.

And of course when it comes to robots and science fiction Isaac Asimov has to get a word in, and in 1953 he gave us a story of Sally, a car with the Robo Brain. In fact, in this world, the only cars that are allowed are the ones that have robo brains as humans are not trusted behind the wheel, so to speak, as the

Wheel no longer really exists. The robo brains of the cars here are not described as the positronic brains common to the rest of Asimov’s robot stories either, and they aren’t bound by the three laws. So we get an alternate take of what vehicles would be like in that universe. But the idea of autonomous vehicles is taking hold.

The next entry on our list from the very next year, 1954, is the first time we see a vision of autonomous vehicles on the screen. In an animated short produced by General Motors, titled Give Yourself the Green Light. This 22 minute mix of film and animation showed overhead shots of parts of the highway system and the problems that the USA was facing with congestion.

We can recognize that the short by GM is what we’d consider propaganda, trying to make a case for the expansion of the highways and opening up more of the country to cars. So that gives us maybe a bit of a hint at the answer to the question of our episode, but let’s go further. The push for highways really kicks into high gear a little bit later in the decade when Disney released Magic Highway USA, directed by Ward Kimball, and airing on the Disneyland TV series in May of 1958.

This animated short depicted how the automobile of the future would fit within society, and it falls along the line of the GM video we just mentioned by framing things about the highway, though centering on the individual within the car Here, the autonomous vehicle is coupled with an autonomous driver forming a complex, almost cybernetic assemblage that we’ll have to dig into more in a little bit.

What’s truly impressive about the short is the list of innovations that it showcased that have since been developed. Some of these include electronic dashboards, traffic bulletins, overhead maps, TV for a rear view screen, heads up displays, and of course autonomous vehicles. Another interesting element later in the short was the introduction of containerized shipping first invented in 1956.

The first containerized cargo ship didn’t leave port until 1958, the same year as the short. Containerization was growing by the time Magic Highway aired, but it hadn’t reshaped society in the world economy the way it has since. Of course, looking back at the show from a viewpoint from 2025, we see a number of elements that aren’t quite as positive, including the decentralizing of the urban areas and the sprawl to the suburbs, the private houses and isolation and the paving of vast tracks of wilderness.

Magic Highway definitely remained a product of its time. I can’t recall whether I first saw this as a child at school when they’d roll out a film to keep us occupied on a substitute teacher day, or if it showed up on repeats during a Saturday or afternoon cartoon block, or maybe even repeated in Sunday primetime on the wonderful world of Disney.

The point being like a lot of Gen Xers, I saw this at a young and impressionable age. If you don’t recall the Magic Highway short, you may be thinking of some others as Disney produced several starring the iconic Goofy during this time, including Motor Mania from 1950 and Freeway Phobia from 1965. But these were made to address a generation of current drivers as a public service and were far less future-focused, more educational in nature.

For example, the Freeway Phobia short highlighted safe driving techniques, minimum stopping distance, and the risks of distracted driving and the dangers it poses. With F Progress, the character portrayed by Goofy causing pile ups of with every misstep. Moving on from the Magic Highway, several of the inventions seen within it would pop up again on primetime again in 1962 when the Jetsons appeared in the fall season

alongside the Flintstones. The flying cars may have overshadowed the autonomous driving features, but George doesn’t have to spend a lot of time looking at the road or concerned with the details of where the car is going. He also has some of the creature comforts and vision for car occupancy in a Magic Highway as well, though ultimately, it’s all to get him into the office in the morning as if the Jetson future doesn’t have remote work.

Both the Magic Highway and the Jetsons are really emblematic of that mid-century vision of the future. We talked about in the California Ideology episode back in episode 38 in the sci-fi in the 1960s. We also saw the rise of vehicles that explicitly weren’t autonomous as Frank Herbert’s Dune in 1963.

had humans taking any role where we might expect to see automatons in the mainstream science fiction. Other visions of autonomous vehicles persisted throughout the sixties, but these were less often seen as the vehicles themselves and as often as not regular vehicles piloted by robots, androids, and various cyborgs.

The 1970s was the era of the Cyborg with Steve Austin, the Six Million Dollar Man appearing in primetime during the early part of the decade, and the Bionic Woman soon followed along with DethLok Cyborg, and a host of man-machine hybrids in the comics pages. We’ll take a look at the Six Million Dollar Man’s legacy

soon enough, though that might be in early 2026, as the schedule currently looks like. It was in the 1980s when autonomous vehicles made their real big push into the current cultural consciousness. First and foremost of these was Knight Rider, produced by Glen A. Larson, and airing on NBC in Primetime beginning in 1982 and starring David Hasselhoff, pre Baywatch and cheeseburgers, fighting crime at the behest of a billionaire, while partnered with an autonomous vehicle named KITT, short for Knight Industries

Two Thousand. KITT was a modified TransAm with a custom front plate that had a moving red light, which was the semiotic code for intelligent machines in the seventies and eighties. Though their motives might be suspect, depending on if you were dealing with Hal 9000 or the Cylons of BSG. KITT is basically a mobile supercomputer that happens to have the shell of a car around it, and is generally described during the show as having cybernetic logic.

It also has a voice module in various scanners and electronic countermeasures, ECM, allowing for enhanced visuals and signal jamming, and a variety of other sensors from heart monitors to bomb sniffers or whatever else is needed by the plot of the week. KITT is also powered by Hydrogen Fuel Cell and uses a turbojet engine along with afterburners.

There’s also a host of offensive and defensive weapons, ejector seats, blenders and beer coolers, and whatever else. KITT kind of had it all. Seriously, Hasselhoff is often a liability compared to KITT. The Inspector Gadget to KITT’s Penny, but still able to do the odd task that KITT couldn’t get done, as is the way of sci-fi series.

We also got the dark side doppelganger to KITT, KARR. That’s spelled K-A-R-R. Appeared in season one, episode nine, episode titled Trust Doesn’t Rust. KARR proved popular enough for return appearance in season three as well, Evil goatee and all, the Samaritan to the Machine, the Lore to KITT’s Data. KARR was a prototype version of KITT’s design programmed for self preservation and a lot more hostility when they faced off.

KITT was able to win due to moxie. Good thing that that submarine was programmed in.

As is the Hollywood way, seeing somebody else’s cool idea and trying to copy it to cash in. Larson would try to repeat a success with a Tron inspired series called Auto Man in 1983, but this failed to capture an audience with poor scripts, rough, special effects, and high costs, dooming it to an early cancellation.

We’ll look deeper into Tron during our next episode, but I don’t think we’re gonna talk much more about Automan at all.


Implausibility, 50% complete.


We would be remiss in our look at self-driving vehicles if it did cover the other place that they show up. In our nightmares. For every sci-fi story of the promise of autonomous vehicles, there’s a horror story that preys on our fears. Sometimes. They’re the same story though, like Killdozer. This fear is often the fear of the loss of control of the machines we use.

As such, they often showed up as ghost stories rather than being overtly science fiction. We’ve been telling stories about ghost vehicles for longer than we’ve been talking about autonomous vehicles since the tales of ghost ships, possessed trains and haunted stage coaches. I’ll skip past those tales of the Marie Celeste and the Stagecoach in and move into the more modern era.

Perhaps the most famous example is Christine, Stephen King’s 1983 tale of a Possessed Plymouth. A story brought to life on film by John Carpenter later that same year. Here we have a demonic vehicle with an ulterior motive that relentlessly hunts down those who have wronged it. Christine is not fully autonomous.

Occasionally requiring the aid of those nearby, but has more in common with the Daemon weapons we might see in more fantastical settings. Stephen King has explored possessed vehicles more than once with the 1973 short story Trucks being turned into Maximum Overdrive in 1986, just in time for an AC DC soundtrack.

Here are the motivating forces of extraterrestrial origin. A comet’s tail, bringing sentience to all machines on earth. We have multiple vehicles working in coordinated fashion, corralling and eliminating the survivors, though subject to one of the weakness of 1980s cars, rocket launchers, and running out of gas.

There’s definitely some deep seated concerns about the seventies fuel crisis lingering in the narrative here, but it isn’t just ordinary vehicles that are in ghost stories, we have possessed weapons of war. The Haunted Tank was a comic series published by DC Comics joining Sergeant Rock in the pages of GI Comics starting in 1961.

Here the Possessor is the Ghost of Confederate General Jeb Stuart, and, and their M3 tank is crewed by namesake in World War II, showing up throughout Africa and Europe. Though they would change vehicles from time to time, the tank is mostly operated by the crew and isn’t fully autonomous, but is included here due to the.

Spirit of the thing. The Haunted Tank is also an influence on one of our favorite topics, Appendix W. Within the Warhammer 40,000 universe, the vehicles of the imperium are possessed by the machine spirits as they have fallen technologically and no longer know how their machines actually work. In some instances, the machine spirits are able to provide some limited autonomy, but in other cases, like when the machines and their crew turn to chaos, they may be literally possessed becoming

twisted amalgams of flesh and metal and able to act upon their own. These two axes, Boon or Bane, Promise or horror, can explain much of the divide in modern audiences and their attitudes towards autonomous vehicles. The priming we receive when we are young can stick with us for a lifetime, but these two examples weren’t the only ones, and more normal versions of autonomous vehicles started showing up in versions that are no longer explicitly menacing, but rather just part of everyday life.

Demolition Man and Johnny Cab of Total Recall. I’m looking at you, but I think these last two examples have more in common with chauffered vehicles and we don’t really consider chauffered vehicles to be autonomous unless you have such a low opinion of others that you don’t consider the driver’s, people, and

Hmm. I fear we’ve unlocked something here, as this brings us back to our look at the California ideology and the quest for automation. The further back we look through history, we see that dichotomy arise more and more. The driver is a specialist. The vehicle is something unique, reserved for the wealthy, or a shared resource.

Of course, if you look back far enough, the simplest autonomous vehicle is a horse and buggy. That’s probably not what comes to mind when you’re asked to picture autonomous vehicle, though technically correct is not the best kind of correct in this case.


Implausibility 100% complete.


So what brought us here? Well, a few things, not least of which is me getting lost on the freeway. Often on the internet, in discussion of autonomous vehicles, you’ll hear people asking who asked for this as if the idea of an autonomous vehicle is inconceivable. But as I hope to have shown, there’s some deep seated roots for it, not just in the fantastical realms of science fiction, but also in pop culture more generally, as well as in traditional media.

It turns out that people have been asking for this for a long, long time. We often preach for an empathetic view of technology to consider the potential uses and needs of people other than ourselves. When examining tech, I’m wondering why it is the way it is. Our exploration of autonomous vehicles is no different.

Personally, I don’t have one, and I’m not in a position to acquire one anytime soon either. This does not mean we can’t examine the technology though. Now that we’re well on the way where that implausibility may become a reality, let’s take a look at the state of the art in our present. And here we find there’s a little bit of a challenge, but this challenge is one of bounty fittingly for this harvest season.

There’s so many stories now of self-driving cars as well as buses, trucks, taxis, in all manner of related vehicles that it’s hard to narrow down and focus on the key elements of the story. In part, that’s one of the things that led to the delay of this episode. I got lost on the freeway back in May of 2024 and started drafting this as I was exploring why.

We’ll get into the conclusion of that tale in a little bit, but as I started looking at the reasons and how the challenges I was facing as a driver are similar, yet amplified for designers of navigation systems or. Anything that needs to interface with our roads, the volume of stories steadily increased.

I was trying to stay streets ahead, but kept losing the race with every new twist and turn. So rather than try and encapsulate everything, let’s try and see what this implausibility really means for humans in an age of self-driving cars. As seen with the Disney example of the Magic Highway, there’s an idea that the vehicles on the roadways could become fast and more efficient the more we relinquish control over to machine controlled systems.

We do this in some areas currently, often in flight or on the oceans, trusting our travel to machine calculated systems. In our forthcoming Appendix W episode on Joe Haldeman’s, the Forever War from 1973, we can see how these ballistic systems was trusted as able to calculate the necessary travel faster than any human could react.

Even Han Solo trusted the nav computer when calculated the jump to hyperspace, even if he punched the electronics a few, couple times, just for good measure. This desire to take the wheels out of our hands is ultimately an issue of trust. Trust that we can’t do it correctly ourselves, or at least other people suck as drivers.

I’m okay, which we can see in the California ideology we talked about earlier. There, the cult of acceleration or cult of speed from the era of the Italian Futurists through till now sees the ability to move faster as being a desirable ending of itself by any means necessary, and we find that some people aren’t opposed to that, that moving fast can even be intoxicating and fun if it’s done in a controlled manner.

The public’s fascination with roller coasters in the early part of the 20th century was noted by Walter Benjamin, and that fascination has continued with Zipline skydiving, bungee jumping, and other high speed pursuits. So how do we achieve this, reach those speeds that we find enjoyable or even necessary for force to travel on the freeways in order to accomplish what we need to?

Well, there’s something interesting that happens when we get behind the wheel, and it turns out we have a lot more in common with Colonel Steve Austin than you might think. Let me introduce you to the idea of an assemblage. We’re accepting this term a bit from the work of the philosopher and anthropologist Bruno Latour.

Latour was working on attempting to describe the way both humans and non-humans interact. For him, this is a problem that expanded out of his work in the field of science studies and interdisciplinary field with humanities that looks at the way scientists go about doing science. This is work he published in Laboratory Life in 1979, along with Steve Woolgar, and it’s a tricky question.

How do use similar terminology to describe how humans interact with their technology? One way is to look at how they relate to one another. For Latour, this science of relations or sociology of translation only works if everything was flat and dissimilar things are treated symmetrically. This has led to people looking at the world in terms of a flat ontology.

You can look at the technology, not on its own, but in the hands or control of its wielder or user. This combined entity is different than the entity on its own. To paraphrase Latour’s own words in terms of what we’re talking about here, it could be best understood as car, or person, or-car person. It matters not the truth is you’re a very different person behind the wheel.

Now, Latour was talking about guns in his original quote, but we can see how easily it applies to what we’re looking at when it comes to cars. If you recall, way back to episode 12, we talked about that feeling of connection that you have when you’re holding a technology in your hand. It’s the same way that you can almost sense the edges of the vehicle when you’re driving in it.

This connection leads us back to cybernetics, but we’re not quite there yet. Where the riggers of ShadowRun and Cyberpunk were hooked directly into their vehicles. But while these future cybernetic assemblages, these metaphorical car-humans may be able to exist on the faster roadways, what do the rest of us do?


Right now, we’ve gone from human scale roads interacting with draft animals of various sorts at what are fundamentally still human speeds. But as we’ve scaled up the speed, the interactions have gotten fundamentally more dangerous, and the overlapping systems have grown apart. How do we keep it all together?

If we think of an overhead shot of the Ring Road from our intro example, taken from 30,000 feet or from a drone or what have you, we can think of the issue with the different kinds of directions. We have overlapping systems in play all the time that we need to navigate and switch between these directions are what we’ll acronym is CONA, Cardinal, ordinal, nominal, and algorithmical, or procedural

Cardinal directions are those navigating by the compass. We can think of the four cardinal directions and how they relate at 90 degree angles on the compass, northeast, south and west. You know these pretty instinctively as they’ve been tied to the sun. Even if we might be hard pressed to point to true north on a dime.

Cardinal directions are further complicated by the various subdivisions bisecting the above. Northeast, southeast, southwest, northwest,

Ordinal, or relational direction systems are based on changes to the current position. Left or right is an ordinal direction. These are the directions you would receive if you stop for directions in an unfamiliar town. Turn left at the next intersection. These might also be used when giving directions to someone else describing where something is.

We can also see ordinal directions in cybernetic feedback systems:

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t. By subtracting where it is from where it isn’t, or where it isn’t from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference or deviation.

Nominal direction systems are the ones that work by name, natch, or label or identifying feature of the item. This is the direction system of puzzle games and treasure maps. So we still use it when driving too nominal direction. Systems can appear in the naming of streets. In some cities like New York where the initials of the Uptown Avenues spell out.

C-A-P-L-P-M, for example, and other mnemonics have been crafted for older cities the world over. Significant features can also be named either directly or by resemblance, and these can be included in nominal systems as well. And of course, the above can be combined in various ways. Head Southeast and turn left at Abe Lincoln or maybe turn left at the rock That looks like a dude with a stovepipe hat. Depending on local knowledge and context, both sets of directions are correct, but whether you get lost or not can depend upon how aware you are of the local lore and culture.

These three are the common ones, the common systems of direction. You often hear about them as number systems or when grouping in data science and the like. But there is another. We need to find a way to describe what we observed as we were driving in the introduction, and that’s how we get to procedural or a rhythmical.

This is rule-based directions like we described in the open. Always exit on the right unless pointed north on the first Tuesday of a month, but our computers aren’t necessarily great at handling all those exceptions are they? They occasionally lose it like a Fembot having to deal with Austin Powers.

However, this is where we are living and driving in a system designed for cars. And not for people. It’s a system that also has the logic of shipping, much like the trucks on the roadways in the Disney Magic Highway from 1958, but it doesn’t necessarily feel like it’s for us. The two approaches to this challenge seem to be either to one, to cede all control and let the machines take care of it, or two, give us more information, and this is where we’re starting to see some more progress.

Back in 2020 at an academic conference, I gave a talk about how AR technologies might actually be useful for both drivers and for pedestrians to provide more information about the high volume of traffic that’s on our roads. And as AR goggles become more widely available, this may be one of those killer apps.

While heads up displays and advanced optics have long been the purview of fighter pilots and those working at the highest speeds, they’ve rarely been applied to more domestic purposes. That’s starting to change. At a recent event, Amazon demoed how they’re going to begin rolling out AR goggles so that delivery drivers don’t need to look down at their devices to follow routes and scan packages ,stated as a bid to improve safety and efficiency, but how well that will work remains to be seen.

There are concerns about privacy as well due to the Always-on cameras on the glasses, but I think AR goggles is an implausibility we’ll have to get into at another time. Regardless of the method chosen cybernetic connection or AR enhanced vision, the way to deal with cars in this future seems to lead to more mapping of the surfaces and roadways into a digital map.

While one could see that having a smart vehicle that can recognize and adapt to situations may be the most ideal, like many tech stories of the 1980s, Knight Rider may have been more of an aspirational tale, and were unlikely to see a system as capable as KITT or even KARR anytime soon. So building a robust map of everything may be the most efficient way.

The question is, what do we do with all those virtual roads? The map might not be the territory after all, right? But one surely exists. What do you do when you have a one-to-one high resolution model of the world? Well, you could simulate anything.

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Andor, Season 2, Week 4

(This was originally published as Implausipod Episode 48 on May 17th, 2025.)

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Andor concludes! (and Rogue One awaits?) Join us as we wrap up the second and final season of Star Wars: Andor with the fifth in our five-part series looking at the show. We’ll recap the final three episodes, released on May 13, 2025 (titled “Make It Stop”, “Who Else Knows?” and “Jedha, Khyber, Erso”) and provide our overall impression of the series as well. (If you’re just joining us, our Andor recap began with Episode 44, available on Implausipod dot com, or selected discerning podcast hosts.


Andor concludes and Rogue one awaits. Join us as we wrap up the second and final season of Star Wars Andor with the fifth in our five part series. Looking at the show, we’re recapping the final three episodes released on May 13th, 2025, titled Make It Stop, who Else Knows, and Jedha Kyber Erso, and we’ll provide our overall impression of the series as well on this episode of the ImplausiPod.

Let’s get right to it.

Welcome to the ImplausiPod, a podcast about the intersection of art, technology, and popular culture. I’m your host, Dr. Implausible. What makes a story a Star Wars story? Are there certain elements that let the audience know what they’re watching? The give it away. Surely there’s recurring elements and themes.

Is it the Jedi and the force? Those have been almost entirely absent through two seasons of Andor. Is it themes of empire and rebellion? Those are hardly Star Wars exclusives. Is it the tech, the droids, the starships, the blasters. Again, not exclusive to Star Wars, but some is the aesthetic. Definitely is.

Is it the characters? Well, again, no Jedi here. No Skywalkers in this particular saga, but. Maybe we’re getting at something closer. I think in the final three episodes of the season two of Andor, we’re clearly getting a Star Wars story, but we’re also getting something much more. Let’s get into how we can tell.

It starts in episode 10, titled Kleya’s Story. Or maybe Make It Stop, which might have been what the show owners were told. A shame really, but it does help us focus. This episode is all about Kleya, the ruthless backbone of the rebellion up throughout the entire run of the series. It was during a review of season one that we’ve noted how the women were the rebellion, obviously by about episode seven from threads that were starting in episode four, and Lea was clearly the one people were lying on to get things done.

She filled an archetype in the Star Wars story, one that’s been there since the very first release in 1977. One that we’ve come to expect and that clearly makes Star Wars. Star Wars. Now this archetype isn’t unique to Star Wars witness, Christina Hendricks’s, Joan Harris, of Mad Men or a different t Take with Amy Acker’s Root and Person of Interest.

But having a character around kind of like Leia in the OG Star Wars really does help make. Andor fit within the universe with the diversification of roles and, Andor with more room for strong female characters, different elements of Leia’s character can be ascribed to different people. So we don’t have to have Leia being all things to fulfill every role needed.

Mon Mothma is the diplomat. Bix is the mechanic and the love interest. Vel is the heart Dedra the dark mirror. And Kleya, well, like we said above, she’s the ruthless backbone. There’s other character archetypes that we’ve become accustomed to as well. Ones that make Star Wars feel like Star Wars, the Rascal and Cassian, the idealistic youth like Nemik, the wise Council, like Luthen, or perhaps Saw Gerrara.

The Droid, B2EMO, the shaggy muscle, in this case, K-2SO and more. We’re focused on archetypes here to distinguish them from say, stereotypes. Archetypes here aren’t the Jungian archetypes that are ascribed to various elements of human psychology. They’re more like story archetypes or character archetypes, personalities that we meet.

And they have a lot in common with the Star Wars tabletop role playing game from West End Games that we mentioned a few episodes ago in that game released back in 1987. The characters are defined by their quote unquote “type”. This could include several of the ones we’ve just mentioned, the smuggler, the bodyguard, the courier, and a few more similar to how we get a game like D&D would have a fighter, a wizard, or cleric.

And interestingly, force users were rare in that game too. At least according to the rules, but I think a lot of campaigns ended up with a Hidden Jedi or two. So those links to Andor are deep, the idea in the game that the type was more important than the specific character. And we’re seeing that we’re getting back to that archetype again.

But if I’m talking about roleplaying games, I’m digressing. This is Kleya’s story, after all. let’s get caught up with what’s going on. We begin with Lonni requesting an emergency meeting and Luthen goes to meet him. Telling KIeya, “I fear we’ve used up all the perfect”. He meets Lonni in public during daylight, and Lonni lets him in on the news of the plot, what he’s just learned about the battle station in the last few hours.

Fearing he’s been burned, Lonni gives Luthen all the details that he’s been in Dedra’s files for the last year. Luthen leaves and we later see Lonni found dead on the bench, though it isn’t clear what he’s died of, a blaster shot or poison or something else. Luthen sends KIeya off to get a message out and starts with destroying the equipment and prepping to leave, but Dedra shows up to the antiquities dealer.

He buys some time for the acid to do its work and then stabs himself, but is stabilized in time by a med team and he’s taken to the hospital. We get KIeya’s story, then told him flashbacks as she’s reliving them. In the flashbacks with KIeya and Luthen, we see some of the events that turned him to the resistor, those small acts of rebellion in Nemik’s words.

Taking place during a raid or some other military action where he subtly sabotaged the ship, allowing room for KIeya to stay aboard as a stowaway and likely preventing more mayhem. A young KIeya has witnessed to more imperial atrocities, including executions, as well as early acts of sabotage by Luthen.

She began picking up her skills at a young age. Some of these flashbacks take place while she’s traveling to the hospital where Luthen is being held and we get another cyber punky plot: Is she there to rescue him or take him out before he can be interrogated? And I wanna point out that the level of detail in the show here remains amazing.

We see the same symbol on the hospital sign on the roof of the building that we saw in the arm bands of the rebel medics in the previous episode. There’s a bit of a real-world conceit here as well, that of the hospital emergency that has played up based on the audience’s knowledges of the tropes of that genre, things that don’t necessarily make sense in a Star Wars universe, but are shown here as roughly analogous to our own, like the orderlies or the layout or the various wings in the hospital.

As we cut to the hospital, we see the Dedra is in charge monitoring Luthen’s status, waiting for him to be ready for interrogation. But she’s in charge only briefly, as she’s soon relieved of her duty. Apparently it was, she was snooping a bit to make the caller, and she’s overstepped her bounds.

Any who in all this distraction, KIeya manages to sneak in, detonate a diversion, saying the least, and then proceeding to use a meal tray in a pistol against several armed guards and a storm trooper that stood in her way of getting to Luthen’s room and she says goodbye. Before heading for the Exit, this is an amazing episode full of character and depth where we say goodbye to some of the most important characters of the series.

There’s a thread here where I’d love to see KIeya as a rebel operative between Star Wars and New Hope and Return of the Jetta, acting as a body double for Leia, serving as a decoy or engaged more directly in her own right. She’s already one of the most skilled members of the alliance. There’d be room to see more from her in the future.

But first we have to get there. It’s time for a return to episode nine’s cyberpunk plot. We need another extraction,

And we get that extraction in episode 11. An episode of CSI: Coruscant, or perhaps it’s titled, who else knows? Because we start with an investigation. Looking at the body of a dead storm trooper, and I’m left to wonder for a second at the incongruity of it, we clearly have the apparatus of a surveillance state in the empire, especially on Coruscant.

We have cameras everywhere, though, not quite a full panopticon. I’m wondering why there weren’t body cams on the storm troopers or officers to presumably show the imperials who was shooting them. It’s a little weird. But we have an ISB investigative team. We’re almost going through the motions of a buddy cop movie, and the detective here is issuing commands even as he’s trying to puzzle out the mystery

He’s introduced to the hospital director, which again, is a very modern conceit of how the hospital would operate. But the ISB detective is clearly flexing how he’s in charge saying: “arrest him. You’re slowing me down. That means you’re a suspect.” To which the hospital director soon concedes.

And as the investigation continues, we shift a bit. As much as last episode was KIeya’s story, this episode is Dedra’s. We see her in custody in a windowed cell or interrogation chamber, and someone turns off the monitors. The panopticon is not watching; just we the audience, and it’s Krennic that we see.

We’ve seen him earlier in the season, of course, during the fancy ball, but here on his own, he is not playing nice. There’s a magnificently framed shot during the interrogation where we can see Dedra’s eyes and only the lower half of Krennic’s face asking the questions with pure malice because his pet project has been found out.

“Say the name, the one that matters.” “Death Star.”  “Who else knows?”

“I want the names I don’t know.” After Dedra offers up Partagaz and some other known parties, and here we start finding out how much Krennnic knows and how cooked Dedra might be. The scavenging, the rooting around in cases that weren’t necessarily related to her department. The stuff that allowed her to succeed early on because she’s able to draw those connections are what now have her in deep, deep trouble.

Because according tore, “I should have pegged you as a scavenger years ago.” The ISB is all about control, and part of that control is very much for the officers to stay in their lane as Partagaz mentioned in season one, they’re healthcare providers, and that healthcare is very much about maintaining control of the situation, and the situation has been very much out of Dedrae’s control.

The fact that Lonni had access to her files for a year, the fact that’s now been discovered by Krennic and others is what’s going to bring her down. As Krennic notes: “If you’re not a rebel spy, you’ve missed your calling.” But Dedra seems to have caught some of that main character syndrome that Syril was feeling, one BBY ago as well.

Contributing and thinking that her compliance will get her out of this jam, not realizing that much like Lonni last episode, she’s done. As Krennic states, we’ll do our best to carry on without you. From there, we bounce around through our fractured narrative quickly, cutting between the hospital and the buddy cops trying to track down the suspect and the dimly lit tenement where KIeya is getting some work done trying to send out an emergency message.

The tension is increasing as we cut to Yavin, where the rebels are starting to actually look like rebels, and we’re getting much closer to something from the original trilogy, which we may recognize, and we step into a situation that almost feels like something out of a Star Trek episode where we have a game of poker being played with Cassian and Melshi and K-2SO, having a moment of convivial downtime.

And that Star Trek reference goes a little bit deeper for me because as they’re playing poker with the droid, I, I almost feel like K-2SO sounds like Data in some ways. You know, this is, game is confusing, this isn’t logical. And the Cassian and Melshi laughing as they say, oh, “he’s going to droid you” here and start bringing out the, uh, the numbers where. K-2SO goes: “We’ve played 863 games. That’s a solid predictive sample” and being confused by the seemingly random actions of humans.

It’s nice to see here this, uh, friendliness and the banter going back and forth, but the tension is still escalating as KIeya’s message comes in and they have to decide on how they’re going to address it.

The debate doesn’t take that long, and they’re soon off. Meanwhile, the ISB investigation is proceeding as well. The ISB is using fears of a virus to help in the arrest of the subject Kleya plan put forth by Major Partaggaz. Again, part of his ideology is the ISB is healthcare providers for the empire. I mean, the virus seems like a plausible explanation, but I’m not sure it’d work here.

Our experience over the last five or so years seems somewhat contrary to that. But there’s multiple approaches to the ISB’s investigation and we cut to Dedra in a cell where we’re getting some real silence of the lambs type vibes in the interrogation, or at least that’s how it was coming to me. Her colleague comes to her asking for advice, uh, quid pro quo almost, and saying that “a quick solve may help her situation”, but realizing that otherwise she could well truly be cooked.

Her last line there, “it’s probably too late” is layered with meaning. Is it the rebels or for her? We have the rebels and the Imperials in a race to get to Kleya, and the intensity is incredibly high. Just well done Filmmaking to everybody involved here. The rebels get there first by just a bit, but an open communication channel.

The smallest of coincidences that a transmission is taking place while the imperials are actually talking and looking at it, leads for them to. Track them down and send an armored team, and we end with the ISB enforcers, not in full storm trooper armor, but close to it, ready to kick down the door. We’ve rarely seen a cliffhanger in this show, but here we’re moving directly into episode 12.

And episode 12 is titled, “This Will be on the Test” or perhaps “Jedha Kyber Urso”. KIeya needs some convincing and she doesn’t see Yavin as a safe option, and both Cassian and Melshi make the case for it being the safe harbor of the moment. The comms channels that have brought the ISB so close are cut with K-2SO assaulting the shuttle and Cassian’s blaster to the transmitter.

But for the ISB, this is close enough. And with that, we get into a fight scene in the hallway, and I’m wondering if I’ve actually stumbled into a different Disney show, like a Daredevil episode or something. Cassian and Meshi are holding their own buying time as K-2SO makes his way towards their floor.

We saw how destructive the enforcer droids were in the episode eight, where they were unleashed on the crowd by Kaido, and here we see it again too. Viewing the hallway from behind and over. K-2SOs shoulder to give the point of view of as he absolutely wrecks the combat squad. And in the midst of it, the inspector whose body armor does little protect him when he’s used as a human shield for the droid, A literal meat shield.

K-2SO is frightening here. An icon of the real world fears we have of the development of humanoid robots that we’ve seen and discussed before. You can check it out in episode 29, here at the podcast, his arrival makes short work of the remaining ISB troopers with the sergeant firing away point blank at his approach echoing back to Cassian in the same position during the Ghorman massacre.

The apartment hallway doesn’t have room for a power loader to make the save for him, however. Cassian and Melshi and K-2SO are able to escape with Kleya who is injured in the fight. This is aided by the Imperial’s own search efforts for Kleya. With everyone tracking down the false virus leads and unable to respond in time, we returned to Yavin.

And much like in the previous episode, the rebel base looks nearly complete with as many sparks flying is in a heavy metal music video from the 1980s. The quote unquote alliance is still fragile though as we see Saw Gerrera arguing with Mothma and Organa accusing her of sending spies his way, confusing the imperial spies with internal factions.

Saw Gerrera gets in a dig just before he closes the comms channel. “If you could only fight as well as you lie.” End quote, symbolizing the mistrust that is high in the alliance. The most difficult part of maintaining this where discovery could mean death, and Cassian’s return is not welcome, treated as a potential hostile and brought in under guard by both X-wings in the air and the general and troops on the ground.

I was delighted to see one of the Mon Calamari, one of Admiral Akbar’s species in the flight control room, and at the Table Council. It made this feel a little bit more like Star Wars too. Cassian brings the three data points that are the title of the show: Jedha, Kyber and Urso and Andor the show at this point is a masterclass in rhetoric.

If I was still teaching a class on that, I think I might use this boardroom scene as an example. Cassian makes a strong case on Luthen’s behalf, but the rhetorical situation is swayed by the general mistrust of Luthen by all involved. Organa lists some of Luthen’s faults. Quote, “his paranoia, his secrecy, his inability to collaborate the web of doubts that he created.

It makes everything unbelievable.” End quote. And when you’re trying to believe in the construction of a moon sized battle station called the Death Star that needs the mining of an entire planet to function well. Yeah, it’s a little hard to believe.

I think it highlights how much Andor, again the show, and the rebellion as a whole, is built on these speech acts like the securitization of Ghorman that we saw in weeks two and three, as well as Nemik’s voiceover that soon comes in here. Nemik’s words – repeated from the tape that he made in season one, episode five – play over a montage of a number of characters that we’ve seen throughout the two seasons, helping bridge Andor the series to where it needs to be at the start of Rogue One.

We hear Nemik’s words as a diegetic voiceover, listened to by Major Partagaz of the ISB, realizing that the viral spread that he was talking about last episode was not that of Kleya, but of this speech out of control of a system that desperately needs it. Partagaz faces an imperial fate with the blaster kept in his desk for emergencies, and a little later we see Dedra in an imperial prison, much like Cassian last season with us, knowing what awaits her.

Much like the closing scenes that we’d see in the final episode of a season of The Wire, we step through all the ensemble characters and see where they’re at and where they’re going. Vel and KIeya discussed the personal and emotional costs of the rebellion. The toll that their course of actions and the decisions that they’ve made have taken upon them.

Vel with some regret, speaks with Cassian and advises him to not wait too long in regards to reconnecting with Bix, and we know how bittersweet that that will be.

Cassian is soon suiting up to go on a mission based on the intel that Luthen brought in, and we close out Andor with the scene of Bix in the field of the harvest planet with a newborn swaddled in her arms.

I’d like to wrap up with some final comments on Andor both as television and for Star Wars more generally. First off was Andor too short, was the Two seasons enough? It’s hard to say, but I feel like the answer is no. We’ve been with these characters for eight movies now, effectively treating each of the major arcs of season one and season two as one movie in its entirety.

And notably by doing so, each block gets close to my favorite runtime of just under two hours. And it feels right. It didn’t outstay. Its welcome. The need to focus to tell the whole story in season two led to the show really getting down to the key points. And I feel that that economy of storytelling really helped.

I feel that if Andor had received that rumored five season arc that they requested, they wouldn’t have managed to maintain the intensity, something that they held to quite well. On a longer timeline, we’d get various shaggy dog stories thrown in, which might have been cool in the moment. You know, a three episode arc where, Andor is trapped by Jabba or something.

But ultimately these arcs would’ve detracted from the overall narrative arc of the show. The temptation or management pressure to throw in a Jedi or something, to show Darth Vader in the background, or have the emperor actually appear on screen, the temptation would’ve been too much and the overall story would’ve been less due to that addition.

Andor also, quote unquote, “cracked the code” for streaming, with regards to the schedule. The three episodes per week, four weeks schedule allowed for each week to feel suitably epic, and didn’t necessarily tie down viewers to feeling obligated to binge the show or avoid all social media less. They risk spoilers while still allowing the show to maintain some momentum and not get bogged down by six or eight or 12 weeks of releases, and give time for the good word of mouth to propagate. The diffusion of information takes time, after all,

Andor isn’t without its faults, of course. I don’t want to spend a lot of time on these and cast a negative pall over the series as a whole, merely mention them so that it’s noted or maybe something to be looked at again in the future. Some of these criticisms of mine are ones that we’ve highlighted over the last few podcast episodes.

The media realism that we spoke about during the run ups to the Gjorman Massacre, and the subsequent fallout is one of those where real world, 21st century and media culture gets deployed to a galaxy long ago and far away. Our mediated lives are particular to our time and place, and they’re very much rooted in our history and the technology that we use.

There’s no reason for it to exist in that way within the universe of Star Wars. So too with some of the other analogs to the 21st century, the office politics and the hospital, these elements exist as a conceit to the audience to allow us to follow along without having to explain too much more or obfuscating things beyond recognition for the sake of “science fiction realism”, and the role, or lack thereof, the non-human characters in this show and the universe at large needs to be examined.

Part of this is that the story being told,  that very human story, but the alien races that are so iconic to Star Wars are often they took on an ancillary role as a mouthpiece for the emperor’s wishes. They could have been integrated into the story so much more, but perhaps it’s that very fact that Andor is a human story or human presenting one at least. And that was the focus of the show set on Coruscant and Ferrix and Ghorman and Yavin rather than the broader galaxy. And that was the story that the showrunners wanted to tell.  

Maybe the alien races, those who have already rebelled, and those who were Captain Kaido and others honed their imperial playbook for riot suppression, and that’s why the aliens are hardly there.  This kind of makes sense. You test out your pogrom on an outgroup before bringing it in internally, and the real-world analogs sadly, continue.

Was Andor “cyberpunk Star Wars”. Yeah, I think as close as we’ll see, cyberpunk draws on other tropes and traditions, both within sci-fi and without. As much as Star Wars drew on sources for its own inspiration, and it’s no surprise that there’s some crossover, but the trade craft and the missions and the roles the characters filled made this a wonderful blending of the two intentionally, or not in a way we’re unlikely to see again.

And finally that question that we had at the start of this episode: is Andor Star Wars? Well, most definitely, though Star Wars on the home front showing that what is taking place across the galaxy has impacts on a personal level, despite the lack of any mention of Jedi lightsabers or nearly any mention of the Force it still felt embedded within the universe, making it make sense and feel real, where the stakes mattered.

Did it make me dust off my old Star Wars RPG and look into grabbing some action figures or maybe a Star Wars model or two? Maybe. I’m not saying it didn’t do that. It definitely sparked some joy and it made it exciting to watch some new Star Wars material for the first time in a long time.

The final takeaway for me are in the speeches, those of Mon Mothma and Luthen and Partagaz and Nemik, of changing the narrative away from “May the force be with you” and replacing it with “the rebellion begins with hope”, and “I have friends everywhere”; catch words and catchphrases more relevant to the here and now and needed here in the 21st century.

This wraps up our Andor coverage here on the Implausipod, save for one more episode sometime in the future. Thanks for joining us over the last month. It’s been a lot of fun watching something with you in real time. That one more episode will be Season Three of Andor: Rogue One, of course, which I haven’t seen since its release. And I intentionally didn’t go back to rewatch during or before the Andor viewing. I want to be surprised.

When we get to that. I’d like to touch on some of the ongoing meta commentary we’ve been seeing around Andor the last few weeks; content I’ve intentionally been nescient of. We’ll look at that sometime soon.

Coming up, before that though, we have a few episodes on recent happenings in cyberspace, returning to some academic material on the internet, and in the month of June, we’ll be starting our look at the WYCU, the Weyland-Yutani Cinematic Universe, something we’ve mentioned over on the blog and in the newsletter. And we’ll have more on that soon too.

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Andor, Season 2, Week 3

(This was originally published as Implausipod Episode 47 on May 12th, 2025.)

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Star Wars: Andor, part 4 of 5, looking at the three episodes released on May 6th, 2025, titled  “Messenger”, “Who Are You” and “Welcome to the Rebellion”.  Things are heating up as the new Media Reality of the Star Wars universe begins to unfold, with more dangerous actors and actions coming to the forefront as well. 

Feel free to follow along with our previous coverage of Season 1 (which we recapped in Episode 44), and episodes 1 through 6 of Season 2 in Episodes 45 and 46.


How does resistance turn into rebellion? What are the inciting incidents that escalate things? And what are some real world examples that may have influenced the showrunners of Andor, and how they managed to still insert some cyberpunk themes? Join us for part four of our five part series looking at Star Wars Andor with the three episodes released on May 6th, 2025 titled “Messenger”, ” Who are you” and “welcome to the rebellion”. Things are heating up as the new media reality of the Star Wars universe begins to unfold with more dangerous actors and actions coming to the forefront as well.

Welcome to the ImplausiPod, a podcast about the intersection of art, technology, and popular culture. I’m your host, Dr. Implausible, and as we return to Andor for week three, and hopefully you have a chance to listen to this before week four, we’re witness to some amazing things. The pace has increased. The intensity has increased, and we are getting some really cinematic storytelling.

When it comes to a story like this with an ensemble cast, multiple locations, things taking place all over the place, often concurrently, I’ve often described the way this storytelling happens as a fractive, as a fractured narrative where things bounce around from person to person, from place to place, often with really quick cuts.

We, as the audience, are given fragments of the story, and asked to put it together all at once. Some of this is the quick cuts in editing that we’ve become so accustomed to since the dawn of the MTV era. But some of this is just traditional storytelling as well, and it takes place not just in audio visual storytelling like television and film and video games, but also in novels and comic books, and pretty much anywhere we tell stories to each other.

So in light of this fractive, this fractured narrative storytelling that is taking place during these three episodes of Andor. We’ll try and consolidate the storylines and rearrange them a little bit. and tease out the key elements that we’re seeing through each of these threads. So without further ado, let’s see what’s been happening in Andor we start off week three with episode seven titled Messenger, or perhaps that should be cha cha cha changes as things are noticeably different, the vibe has shifted and we see evidence of that vibe shift right from the opening crawl.

We’re once again told it’s one year later with the BBY or. Big Bad Yam, I’m counting down to two and right from there we pan down to some ziggurats in a jungle and oh ho it’s the Yavin base one that’s shown up again in season four of Andor I’m sure, but we have a spacecraft approaching it, stepping out as our young Bruno Mars-ish mechanic (who’s name is Will), strolling through the landing area. And here the vibe is suitably cinematic. There’s a lot of people moving around. We see droids and rebels and aliens and the like. And the feeling is that there’s some action going on. Will meets up with Bix and Cassian deep in the Jungle and there’s some tension.

Cassian is a wound from a fight we didn’t see. And will passes along a message from Luthen wanting to know if he’s ready to work. And Cass has a simple question, “do you wanna fight or do you wanna win?” The vibe is also different as we shift to Ghorman. There’s an audio overlay of talks of increased terrorism and terrorist of attacks actually taking place, and the plaza first seen in episode four is changed.

Lots of imperial officers and reporter types as we saw in the previous block of episodes, and this is around at the eight minute mark or so. There’s fewer locals, just a few people in suits, and Syril Karn is walking through it and. There’s something about this that sits oddly with me, and it’s the reporters.

I’ll try and explain. There’s a philosopher by the name of Mark Fisher who wrote on capitalist realism that we can’t conceive of a future without capitalism, but maybe here we’re seeing what we could call Media Realism. We can’t think of a different way to show the manufacturing of consent than having obvious reporter types doing on scene standups, ala Anderson Cooper, or so many other disaster reporters.

It’s one of the threads I was talking about in our episode on Soylent Culture where writers of shows have grown up in a landscape and can’t imagine a different way of presenting it now. There’s a big caveat here, of course, given that the writer’s using Star Wars as a vehicle to talk about current situation is something that often happens in sci-fi.

I mean, Lucas originally was using Star Wars as a commentary on the Vietnam War, and we can see parallels with what is being done here too. It’s just something to keep in mind that the reporters are very and the way they’re presented here are very much analogous to our situation and don’t really necessarily fit within the Star Wars universe.

There’s something anachronistic there where we can see elements of other things within the Star Wars universe, but that have been part of it for a long time, that kind of fit within it, and we’ve become accustomed to them. It makes sense, but let’s put aside this anachronistic media realism, and let’s get back to what’s going on.

But first, quickly, one other thing I’m noticing is that there’s a lot of cuts going on. We’re jumping around from place to place. It’s like the pace of the storytelling has increased. We’re moving around rapidly through the different locations and characters that are already established. Touching on each one briefly, and this increased pace brings an energy and an urgency to the show that we’re watching.

As I mentioned, we briefly see Syril Karn moving through the square and with the increased imperial presence, he’s not afforded some of the same privileges that he was used to through Syril. We once again meet Dera who had been previously identified when Will showed Cassian a data slate with her face on it, and she was singled out as a target.

Dedra is conferring with her supervisor, major Partagaz, and once again, he name drops the Emperor as saying that he’s taken an interest in the plan that’s going, but they’re going with the original plan, which is apparently bad luck for Ghorman and the app fleet will soon be arriving. Dedra is told of her possible career moves based on the success of this operation, and she lets the major know that.

You’re aware the insurgents have weapons at this point, and the major says we’re counting on it so we get the sense that they’re looking to go the Ghormans into a rash action. Touched quickly in a few other places as well is hearing of the Senate security asking for schedules and audio of media and news reports are saying there’s an escalation of the terror.

Terror campaign. We check in with the Ghormans and they’re arguing as well, stating finally that we are the gore, and if they aren’t, then what else is there? What’s left? And we bounce back to Yvan. And here’s the other major event of this episode. Cassian’s clearly in pain due to the blaster burn and Bix convinces him to go visit a force healer that’s available on site.

And this is, I think one of the few times within the entirety Andor up to this point that we’ve had. Any even mention of the force, let alone someone present that’s able to like to wield it to a small degree. I mean not a full-blown Jedi, but force-sensitive nonetheless. And she is able to heal the blaster burn on Cassian and says, thank you for the clarity.

And she gets a sense of. What Cassian’s fate may be that some people gather as they go. There’s a purpose to it. There’s a place they need to be, and this is the role for Cassian. He’s moving through. He’s our instigator, and we have a sense of what that place is, and we know what that’ll be coming soon.

There’s a really nice segment after this meeting with the force healer. Between Bix and Cassian it’s, it’s outside their cabin in the forest. And visually it looks a whole lot like Return of the Jedi. There’s a callback in the imagery to when Leia was a guest in the Ewok Village, and there’s a bit of the sense that Bix might become a bit of a force convert here as well.

From there, Cassian will soon leave, and there’s some words exchanged with the rebel commander, and we’re getting the sense that things will be changing here soon too, that they’re becoming a much more cohesive fighting force. This is echoed by Vel who comes to visit Bick soon after Andor leaves, and still grieving the loss of Cinta from the previous episode.

She says that they’re not Luthen’s puppets anymore and they’re building a real army. Casting as leader and needs to, you know, step up and actually show that he is one. And while this talk is taking place in his absence, he lands once again on Ghorman, posing as the fashion designer from episode five.

But there’s a curfew in effect. The imperials are much more present and we hear on the loudspeaker that an all around group shuttle has been canceled. So Cassian sits in the hotel room. With a completely different vibe,

and by episode eight, that vibe has shifted and gotten even more intense. Episode eight is titled, who Are You or AKA For me, it was Tuesday and we start with an overhead shot of the main city of Ghorman. It’s a nice city, and I love these overhead establishing shots that we get of these cities. It feels, again, very Game of Throne- esque, but it gives us a sense.

Of place. As we zoom in, we see that Andor is preparing a sniper rifle when the imperial start moving things around. It looks like they’re opening up the plaza, but according to Cassian, we see that they’re building the cell around the building, turning it into a fortress, and this disrupts his assassination attempt of Dedra.

She’s in the middle of a conversation with major par toga, and in it he says. Our struggles with Ghorman are well documented at this point, which means there’s a bit of a change in the narrative that’s been going on in the last year, and that change is echoed by the reporters that are allowed to be in the otherwise mostly empty plaza.

They’re echoing the ISB words. They’re saying that. The Ghormans are resistant to imperial norms. I’m wondering how long it’s gonna go on and there’s rumors of a general strike. Syril’s mom is watching all of us from tv, of course, and Syril has a confrontation with the old man who asks him, what sort of bean are you?

The mining stuff is getting set up on the planet. The population of Ghorman is aware and the Ghorman are wondering what the heck the Imperials are actually up to. This meeting seems to actually cut through to Syril a little bit. He took a slap last episode well deserved from one of the Ghorman woman who had brought him into the circle and is.

Realization is fracturing his dedication to the imperial cause. Somewhat. Cassian is checking outta the hotel, sharing a few words with the concierge who he spoke with originally in episode five, telling him to stay safe. And from there the concierge gives us a great line. He says that rebellions are built on hope.

As Cassian dives into the square, we’re teased the near miss between Cassian and Syril in the crowd. As more and more people are coming in, there’s a chant going on. “We are Ghorman, the galaxy is watching.” This soon shifts to song, led by the man, the one with the elbows up forearm gesture from episode four.

News stumbled onto the heist in episode six. The song’s in the native tongue of gore, they were using this a lot during the various scenes from week. Two, but I didn’t talk about it then, but I wanna bring it up here. It’s a vaguely European sounding language sounding at times Eastern European with a little German thrown in and talking about it.

Now I’m curious enough to look it up, so forgive me for a quick moment and, okay. It’s apparently a novel language created for the show with French roots to link it to the French resistance from World War ii. That is really wonderful. A real credit to the actors and everyone involved for being able to work in a made up language.

That’s amazing stuff. As more and more goers show up in the square, things are getting decidedly worse. However, the intensity is definitely rising and we know bad things are about to happen. I. Captain Cato shows up positioning his troops. I know he was introduced in the previous episode and I kind of glossed over it, but there was a lot going on.

He has a well orchestrated plan of how to escalate a bad situation and much like the FBI guys in diehard, he’s following the playbook to the letter. Syril is then. Back in the Imperial building and moved to a side room to stay until it is safe and he meets the combat droids and it starts to click for him what is likely going to happen.

He sneaks outta the room and confronts Dedra and uh, they are done. Of course, Dedra has known what’s been really going on for a while and has no misconceptions about it. Syril’s kind of finding out in real time and maybe not realizing what he was contributing to. Dedra drops a line on him as they’re breaking apart here.

He, she says, it didn’t seem to mind the promotions. He’s been moving up quickly over these years and maybe not realizing that one came from the other. I. As he storms out, Dedra is reminded that she has to give the command and all heck breaks loose. A couple comments here is I find it difficult to interject commentary on action sequences.

There’s usually a lot going on, and in this one, more than most it. Rivals and perhaps exceeds the frantic chaos of the jailbreak in season one. So I’ll just try and cover a couple major themes. The first one is that aesthetically with the dress of the Ghormans and the language that we mentioned before, I’m wondering how much visually this tracks with the movie like Reds, the movie from 1981 starring Warren Beatty about the October revolution.

I was young when this came out and only remember it being long and definitely not something I wanted to see, but from what I remember, yeah, that there’s this really close visual similarity with the long coats and the dress and the flags being waved by the Ghormans, just the single color flags that they’re flashing around at various points.

Given the French language origins, maybe I need to go watch. Lay miserable or something too, but that’s outside my frame of reference. Another thing I’d really like to commend the showrunners on is their use of the storm troopers within the scenes and in the show more generally. For the most part, it’s been pretty reserved.

The storm troopers are of course, an iconic symbol of the empire within the Star Wars universe, a signifier that’s reached beyond just. Popular culture within the show. We’ve largely seen human faces on the imperial officers, and even here the Imperials are often un helmeted and unmasked. We saw a number of storm rivers with the Imperials in the first week of shows accompanying the inspection team during the harvest and cut down by Cassian and the tie fighter.

And of course in season one they were involved when Cassian was arrested in episode seven. But they’re used sparingly here in episode eight. They’re much more prevalent, and it’s not subtle, at least not to me, but maybe it goes unnoticed by the audience. Within the square, the plaza, there is one set of steps that is manned by nothing but storm troopers, a literal wall of death, not the one you find at a mosh pit, at a metal show.

Part of the reason I think I might go unnoticed by the audience, though not the Ghorman Rebels, they know something is up, is how much the storm Trooper has been accepted through its normalization of popular culture. They can be seen making jokes and skits and cartoons. They’re dancing in the exhibits of Disney World.

They’re adopted into the culture here. They are not. There is no attempt to make them cuddly, to defang them. We have to remember they’re soldiers with a name chosen to echo the soldiers of Nazi Germany in World War II and deliberately designed aesthetic to match that of a skeleton to look like an army of the undead.

This is why so much of the normalization of storm troopers and the empire by groups like the 501st and others seems so regularly through cosplay and comic conventions and the like is deeply problematic. Fascist cosplay is fascist dress rehearsal after all. So credit to the showrunners and producers for emphasizing how deadly and dangerous the stormtroopers are.

They, along with the other Imperials clash, the Ghormans as Captain Kaido’s Sniper, takes out one of the Imperials to light the match of the powder keg that’s been building, making it look like a shot from the Ghorman started it and it soon turns into a massacre. The rebels are insurgents, blending into the crowd, really only identifiable from the civilian population by the weapons they hold firing back at the imperials and inflicting casualties themselves at Kaido’s order.

The combat droids are unleashed and the battle turns into a slaughter. The weapons that Ghormans have can barely scratch them, and the droids need little aside from mass and. Physics to deliver lethal destruction upon the crowd. Cassian is still attempting to take out Dedra, missing one shot due to a nearby explosion, and another to Syril him saving Dedra’s life once again, unbeknownst to her.

And it is on. We get a fight right out of John Carpenter’s They Live between the two. One with no holds barred furiosity, and in a brief moment of respite, Cassian utters, the titular phrase, who are you? And while Syril Karn seems to be winding up to deliver a soliloquy to let him know. Fate delivers a blaster shot.

This was likely how it was always going to shake out. As I mentioned in our review of week one, the show wasn’t called Karn after all, but I’m wondering what Karn was feeling there, learning that the object of his obsession did not even know of his existence. One of the driving motivations for him was this quote unquote mean character syndrome, something we could see time and again to his chafing at his lot in various points, or thinking that he was taking a bigger role in what was going on than was what was actually taking place.

I’m wondering how much allure the Empire has for individuals like Syril who join up and like his mother said in the previous episode, don’t be such an individual. There’s a further irony to this of course, because if Syril had felt just a smidgen less guilt for his actions, had stayed inside the Imperial compound and been less of an individual, he would’ve survived the Fer Riot just fine.

Of course to Cassian will and the escaping Ghorman Rebels. Syril doesn’t register much at all, but for us, the audience, this is a major shift. Honestly, I did not expect him to go out this way. I thought he might manage to fail upward a little bit more to a position on a newly formed battle station perhaps in the next couple of years.

But for Cassian, Will and the others, the escape isn’t quite over. They need to flee into the surrounding streets, along with the other citizens and rebels retreating as best they can. We hear from other radio stations that the crackdown is coming everywhere, and the combat droids here are terrifying, relentless hunters attacking indiscriminately in the street.

I think this echoes our own fears about autonomous war machines as they become something more likely to. Deployed in our timeline as well, but drawing on inspiration from the Weyland Yutani cinematic universe. Sometimes the best tool at hand to defeat a relentless predator is a power loader, or sorry, a hover truck.

It could go by many names. It’s able to pin a combat droid into a brick wall, effectively disabling it, providing some redemption for the driver that Ghorman rebel, whose blaster got sent to killed. Maybe here’s the right place to talk a little bit more about her death. I think Vel’s reaction to Cinta’s death stated, though not shown last episode in her conversation with Bix, that she threw herself into her role as a smuggler, as a means to process her grief about Cinta’s death, and she realized she was getting reckless interactions and decided to step it back and take a different role. 

And as we’ve noted before Andor as a show very much about the dualism between these competing groups, the Imperials and the rebels, the high class and the underclass, et cetera. And we see this here too, with veil’s reaction to Sintas death and the brief showing of Debra reacting presumably to the news of Syril’s body being found in the aftermath Klein at the collar of her imperial uniform.

That collar that drew so much attention back in episode seven of season one. Vel and Dedra are mirrors in some ways, both in their position within their side and their ability to be active agents and sometimes caught in demands from superiors. And I wonder if we’ll see Dedra follow Vel’s lead perhaps becoming more reckless or ruthless in her service to the Empire.

We have a comment on the TV within the show about the heroes of the empire, and I wonder if Syril will posthumously become one of those, his role as a simple bureaucrat, slain in the action taken up. He may become one of those. Empire action figures that were on the shelf of his room in his mother’s apartment back in season one, as we see his mother watching the news of the riot and the massacre on screen with some friends sitting on couches.

This media realism that we were seeing in the previous episode continues through to here, and I feel like we will soon see her. Interviewed by the media apparatus given a heartfelt tale of how she begged him not to go.

The pace keeps accelerating though, and the momentum does not let up. As we shift to episode nine titled, welcome to The Rebellion McKay. Come with me if you want to live. In our analysis of last week’s shows, we noted how the heist was so central to the cyberpunk genre, and here we have one that is almost.

Equally important, the extraction. This is where the heroes have to get a VIP, often a scientist or a rock star or a politician, and know of things out from wherever they are within the cyberpunk genre. This is often from a mega corp or occasionally a prison. And we can see it in novels like Count Zero in shows like person of interest and in video games where they often take place as quote unquote escort missions.

So with Andor as cyberpunk Star Wars, it’s no surprise to see a full on extraction plot line taking place. There’s some fits and starts to it as Cassian is hesitant. Telling Luthen, I make my own decisions and Luthen replying. Is that what you’ve been doing? Sometimes I wonder, this is after Cassian got some clap back from Kleya earlier and the sass game is strong from the rebel side.

So Cassian is sent in under the guise of a journalist. It seems to fit a bit with the idea of the media reality we talked about earlier, which is also taking place, but here it is also just, I guess it makes some sense as a realistic cover for someone that would be dropping in on a floater basis to a Senate hearing.

The whole idea that Cassian has with a highlight on the pass key that Clay had forged from earlier kicks into, um, an idea that’s called securitization. This is something particular to the study of international relations, and I was first introduced to it by a colleague giving an academic presentation on it and how it related to the early stage MCU movies like Avengers Age of Ultron Securitization is where issues and events are suddenly framed as being issues of quote unquote national security requiring extraordinary means to address them in it. 

A threat is identified and then the justification for it is presented and I’m taken up by the audience for myself. I sometimes conflate this with security theater, which we also see on display here with the gates and the ISB monitoring the entire Senate. But these are not the same thing.

Securitization is about the speech Act, and we can see this here as various cut scenes of the Senate as the other events are going on with various senators speaking out on behalf of the empire against the Ghormans and the massacre that took place. And owl headed Alien delivers a list of fallen imperials from the massacre and other aliens speak out.

Though a few human presenting senators do as well, they’re all speaking out against the Ghormans and I found it odd that we were seeing alien voices deliver this message working as proxies for the emperor. I’m not sure if this is meant to echo back. The prequel trilogy in Jar Jar Binks role in speaking to the Senate, or if there was an intentional point that the showrunners were trying to make here, and we’ll keep an eye on this.

As things accelerate, we get to the Senate with Senator, he drops the S word, which is perhaps the first time I’ve heard a swear in a Star Wars show. You know, not a made up swear. Perhaps I haven’t seen everything obviously, but it did stand out to me and there’s some procedural adjustments that’s taking place.

Some very Sorkin esque dialogue, very West Wing kind of thing. The kind of stuff that I’m most definitely am not the right audience for, but through some work in Organa invoking article 17 dash 252, we get to Mon Mothma’s speech. And much like in Maarva in season one. Mon Mothma delivers. 

Here she states quote, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous thing. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. This chamber’s, hold on. The truth was lost yesterday. What happened was unprovoked genocide, and the monster who will come for us all soon enough is Emperor Palpatine. And once again, we have a show that was written in 2023, perhaps filmed in 2024, being very relevant to current events. 

We also kick into full on cyberpunk extraction mode, and casting is quick and ruthless when needed does not play. Of course, we have to recognize that he had just gotten here from the Ghorman massacre less than a day ago and has had not had. Any moments of respite since that began? The various ISB schemes unraveled with two quick blaster shots, one for the plant on Organa’s, team, one for the driver, and we are soon off evading the stormtroopers. And remember, they are the baddies. 

And they soon arrive at one of Luthen’s halfway houses. The one previously inhabited by Bix and Cass in when they were trying to cosplay as normal just a few episodes ago. And things are changing fast. Mon Mothma will get a military escort from Gold Squadron. Cassian takes the rescued Will back to Yavin separately.

And on Yavin we find that Vel is doing the intake that she mentioned in episode seven, inspecting blasters, and she finds one that is unique. I. Bix and Cass are reunited and he tells her that she is out and Bix is listening, but she seems hesitant. But, uh, Cassian knows his place in things. He says, quote, the only thing special about me is luck and I’ve overplayed my hand already and he wakes to find the Bix is not there. A video recording saying, I’m choosing for the both of us. I’m choosing the rebellion.

Well, things are definitely heating up. This has been a fantastic three episodes of television. It’s very cinematic. It definitely feels like it could have been a movie, but the fact that it isn’t doesn’t detract from it at all. Join us next week as we look at the final three episodes and see how any of our speculation might have turned out based on everything that we’ve seen to date.

I think it’s gonna be fantastic.

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Andor, Season 2, Week 2

(This was originally published as Implausipod Episode 46 on May 9th, 2025.)

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Part 3 of our 5 part look at Star Wars Andor, with week 2 of season 2 and the three episodes released on April 29, 2025 (“Ever Been to Ghorman”, “I Have Friends Everywhere” and “What a Festive Evening”). We’ll continue following the threads as they weave together, mirroring the first season in some ways and charting new territory in bringing the most cyberpunk Star Wars story seen to date. And if you want to catch up, feel free to catch the previous two episodes on the Implausipod dot com website.


E0046 Andor S02 Week 2

If Andor is the most cyberpunk version of the Star Wars universe that’s ever been shown in media, then there’s nowhere that that’s more apparent than in week two of the second season of Andor. join us as we continue our look at the show with part three of our five parts series, recapping the three episodes released on April 29th, 2025, including “Ever been to Ghorman”, “I have friends everywhere” and “what a festive evening”. We’ll draw some connections, follow some threads, and see how they weave together and see how Season two is starting to mirror the episode arc of season one, but doing so in some new and interesting ways in this episode of the ImplausiPod.

Welcome to the ImplausiPod, a podcast about the intersection of art, technology, and popular culture. I’m your host, Dr. Implausible. So what makes Andor cyberpunk Star Wars? it isn’t just in the Blade Runner-esque city scenes, is the hover cars float toward the landing pad during episode six, but it’s also that and has more to do with the swagger and the ethos, the vibe as things are being called today.

But there’s other connections too. Way back in episode three when we gave a rundown of the Cyberpunk 1 0 1, we noted how cyberpunk wasn’t just signified by the aesthetics, the Black leather and Chrome seen in countless movies in the 1990s, but it was also highlighted by ruthless mega corporations, income inequality, and the enduring influence of the heist film.

Star Wars is somewhat lacking on the mega-corp front, but perhaps the Imperials slide into that role well enough, and the income inequality has shone through. However, it’s seen in many small ways in the dual lives of Mon Mothma and Luthen and the window into their worlds in the first season, and becoming much more apparent in the second season as well.

The cyberpunk connection to income inequality initially came as William Gibson was inspired by a book on the Victorian underworld and the differences across society during that gilded age. This vast gulf between the haves and have nots, the Star Wars universe comes screaming to the forefront in the second week of shows episodes four to six.

We’ll keep an eye out for the examples that they show up during this week’s episodes. The final connection making Andor cyberpunk Star Wars story is the role of the heist. Transmedia cyberpunk properties like Shadowrun and Cyberpunk 2020 and even archetypal novels like Neuromancer are about the run, the heist, the score.

We can see this in the first season where the run on the payroll by a small group of determined individuals is used to fund the rebellion. And we see it here in week two, where during this arc we have not only one, but three heists and some various other elements of spycraft as well. And six episodes in, we see how season two of Andor is mirroring season one.

We start with an inciting incident followed by a battle with the imperials where Andor gets away. In the first arc and in the second arc, it’s all about the heist, that big score. Here, we see how the different factions of the Rebel Alliance can pull it off to varying degrees, but we’re getting a little bit ahead of ourselves.

Let’s look at the episodes. As always, these comments are just my impressions of the episodes After they’ve aired, I’m not watching ahead or checking out the online discourse. And we start with episode four: “Ever been To Ghorman”, AKA “De Berbs”, where burbs may have more than one meaning. But first, a word on Ghorman.

I mentioned last episode, how I’ll have to stop referring to Syril Karin by his nickname of Lieutenant Gorman due to their increased presence on the show. But it turns out that the Ghormans have been present in the Star Wars universe for a long, long time. And maybe we need to take a quick look at this before we get into the episode proper.

It might seem hard to believe in 2025, but Star Wars wasn’t always this ever- present media giant with premium shows launching regularly and always available at the touch of a button with merchandising tie-ins available from High Street to Legoland, to Dollarama, to multiple books and comics and games and figures coming out on a monthly basis.

Back in the mid to late eighties, it was a different time following the recent Return of the Jedi in 1983, there was some popularity, sure. But things fell off. Aside from the remnant action figure sales, by 1987, there wasn’t much interest at Star Wars at all, save for the hardcore fans. So when West End Games released the Star Wars role playing game that year, the market was smaller and not a lot of attention was paid to it.

Tabletop roleplaying games like D and D were in a bit of fallow period as well, though there was a strong overlap between the audiences of the two. So West End Games got to producing material for the Star Wars universe to fill out the galaxy with stuff for the players to do.

They began with the original films and then some of the add-ons, the novelizations of the comic book series from Marvel, which was something but not a ton, not the way we think of media properties today. West End Games had to develop a lot of devices and droids and equipment and settings and plot elements and starships.

And the unique thing was that what they were developing was considered canon. It was still Star Wars all falling under the same umbrella. The distinction in types of media property wasn’t paid as close attention to back in the 1980s. So Star Wars was one of the first places where we saw transmedia storytelling.

This is similar in some ways to what was done with other sci-fi franchises like Star Trek and Dr. Who, and maybe Conan too. On the fantasy side, transmedia storytelling could also be understood as multi-platform storytelling, where a single story is told across different platforms and media. The above franchises would have a continuous narrative going, jumping between the shows, films and comic books.

Transmedia storytelling is a little bit different than Adaptation where the same story is retold in different places, often with subtle differences to account for the media. So the Dr. Who books are subtly different than the shows, as are James Blish’s novelizations of Star Trek, the original series, and Alan Dean Foster’s work on the Star Wars books.

Transmedia storytelling is something that was seen in media. It was something originally looked at by Henry Jenkins. We talked about some of his work back in episode 16 on Spreadable Media.

This brings us back to Ghorman and the Ghorman front. Like I said a little while ago, Ghorman has a long history with the Star Wars Media at first showed up, as I mentioned, in either the role-playing game from West End Games or in the X-Wing video game from 1993.

This was an early space flight simulator where you could Dog fight in outer space and fly other fighters from the Star Wars universe. I was able to confirm the appearance of Ghorman in the 1993 video game via Wookiepedia, but the appearance within the West End games wasn’t something that I could confirm directly vi.

A quick look through my own books. Didn’t really see anything there. But then again, I didn’t have the complete set in either case. Ghorman, the Planet and the Rebel Group has been part of Star Wars for quite some time, given that it’s been around this long. Let me ask you. Have you ever been to Ghorman?

It’s a good question. And what did we get an answer to early is the vibe here is definitely different with round windows and slanted buildings in a different colour palette. One that feels right out of a Wes Anderson movie. Right along with the diegetic sounds as Syril walks across the square, this is in stark contrast to the brutalist tenements we’ve seen on Coruscant earlier.

Following Syril around, we learned some of the lay of the land, similar in some ways to ferric where he was stationed earlier and yet. Unique. These similarities can be seen in the dirt roads and I wonder if they’re there for a reason. Maybe like cost savings or something. Or if the grab chucks that we see in the background leaving mean that paving is unnecessary.

And as Syril goes about his business in town, we see some more of what Ghorman is like. Syril has picked up a bit of trade craft, it seems, using floss to check of his residence is broken into. And his love for action figures continues with some spiders now on the shelves in his apartment. He walks back to his office and we see some berbs, real berbs actually, despite how strange they look.

These are pigeons, an English breed called powders. I had to go and check this into this one for sure. But that’s wild to see the burbs moving around. It gives it a real lived in feel. This. Walk that Syril has taken is overlaid with a conversation with his mother, with protestors in the background, protestors, chanting, stop the building, stop the empire.

Join us. This is all shown in subtitles. Syril’s mother is worried, thinking he’s making the wrong choice, thinking the job on croissant was better, but here he seems to be thriving and he’s better able to deal with his mother. We don’t quite get Syril car as Michael Scott, though. I’m sure Disney could milk a few spinoff seasons out of that if they wanted to.

But is Syril bugged? It looks like someone is listening in and Syril’s mother is worried, but he advised her that what she’s hearing about Ghorman is propaganda where they may have to have loyalty oaths just to keep their jobs and in 2025 Andor the whiplash effect is still in full force. Syril’s mom tells him: “don’t become too much of an individual”, and whoa.

Syril’s mom repeats the core imperial ideology for its citizens like. To fit in and go along, and this is an empire that thought the solution to building an army was to clone them. After all they want unity of thought. I wonder where Syril’s mother got the line. It feels like a catchphrase that you’d see on a billboard in John Carpenter’s “They Live”.

I’m literally shook. Syril takes it in stride though. But while Syril has a better handle on dealing with his mother, at least at a galactic distance, the spies who are listening in find are terrifying. But despite their fear, they decide that Syril might make a good candidate to contact for their cause to quote action him before he is replaced.

So Syril is a target and he’s approached by a spider vendor in the plaza, and I thought these were action figures, but they’re actually dried versions of the spiders from the video. In the first episode, I assumed that they were huge, perhaps like Sheila sized, but I realized that that’s part of the propaganda pitch and probably what were being shown to imperial citizens, like Syril’s mother as part of the propaganda campaign too.

Anyways, Syril unravels the message and then sneaks back into the office, but he’s bait. He’s undergone some imperial trade craft crash course over the last year and is actually using his quote unquote real job as a front to try and make contact with the Ghorman resistance and what’s going on. He shows up at the meeting as a civilian and watches what’s going on.

It feels more like a union hall, and we’re witness to an. Ongoing dialogue where the citizens are airing complaints about imperial trade interference, regulations, tariffs and certainty, and oof. This might be another example of the biter mean H effect or the frequency er illusion where. You know, we see something and now we’re exposed to it everywhere, or we start seeing it everywhere.

But seeing this here now hits home hard. The audience in the trade hall is interesting. A lot of ’em have this white shirt, black vest combo going on. Not all of them though. And I’m wondering if there’s some connection to a certain Corellian pilot that we’re gonna come to meet in Andor season four.

We’ll put a pin on that for later. The audience, one that Karn was asked he gives a rather weak the strength of feeling response. Like what does he feel there? It’s this strength of feeling like, what does that even mean? But the audience is incense. There’s a long history here, going back to about 16 years ago, and Grand Moff Tarkin killed five un 500 unarmed Ghormans in the plaza, and I guess that will link up to season four of Andor as well.

One of the more vocal union members does some kind of elbows up gesture and they are not happy about the building that the imperials are doing. The one that’s taking place right now. And of course, Syril flips us all back to Dedra on the quick. She’s busy. Meetings in the ISB boardroom, and they’re struggling with processing all the arrests they’re taking in.

There’s machinations going on here. Wheels within wheels and cliques and factions meet after the boardroom meeting. It’s like Succession or Severance, but with blasters overall, I’m impressed with how many of the officers have stuck around since the first season because I was under the impression that Imperial turnover was higher, to be quite honest.

But Dedra is doing more than it seems as Luthen soon finds out his plant. Lonnie takes the express elevator to heck to meet with Luthen, who is all business, and he lets him know what’s going on in the ISB quote “The smear campaign is an opening move, not an end game” end quote. And Dedra is running Ghorman in secret, even from other members of the ISB.

Luthen’s got a lot of irons in the fire and we’re taken to what looks like a rebel base and meet Saw Gerrera and his crew again, taking delivery of tech from Luthen, some specialized equipment that does something fancy, I’m sure.

Meanwhile, Mon Mothma is working the Imperial angle, fulfilling her role as a senator, of course, trying to build a coalition, willing to vote against the actions being taken against Ghorman.

We see many of the senators she’s talking to are like aliens of various forms after the Star Wars fashion, of course, but we haven’t seen many. Overall. I’m left with an impression of like colonialism here, but I’m not sure if that’s the right word for it. I just wanted to put a pin into like. The appearance and the prevalence or not of the aliens that we’re seeing within the Star Wars universe, through the lens of Andor, one of the politicos or one of the other politicos that she’s speaking with, tells her that “she’s confusing criminality and politics here”, to which she responds.

“Why, are we finding criminals are making them?” So the demonizing and manufacturing of consent that began in episode one. The last episode we talked about, it continues here as well. And of course, we open. The episode. This episode with Bix having another bad dream, something straight out of synth-tok with big buttons at a fader visible in the foreground or whatever machine was in her dream, she wakes into another nightmare where we hear again that “everyone has their own rebellion:, and Cassian makes the save. Bix is struggling with guilt and Cassian is struggling with being normal, getting Bix to tell him that the mission is dinner. I like this touch of normalcy from them, for them though that at its heart Andor as a show about the lives of regular citizens in the empire, but it’s not easy, and Bix struggles.

Highlight a key point quote: “If I’m giving up everything I want to win, we have to!” end quote. So when Luthen shows up to ask Cassian a question, the titular question of the episode, he’s kinda gotta.

Which leads us right into episode five titled “I Have Friends Everywhere” or maybe “Caught in a three-way dance, just like Gordon Lightfoot sang”. In either event, Cassian gets to walk through Ghorman as a fashion designer, seeing some of the sites that we’ve already been introduced to, but perhaps oblivious to some of the significance of them.

It’s kind of cool, but there was a moment at about the 8 45 mark that threw me for a loop at, as I think the exact same set or building rather, was used in bong June hose Mickey 17, with the circular stair. One of the few bits of pre-release coverage for Andor season two I caught by accident was that Tony Gilroy had mentioned how doing Andor was like filming four movies back to back and that they use practical sets for the most part as opposed to the volume used in other Star Wars shows like the Mandalorian.

So it’s not surprising that a vaguely futuristic real world shows up twice. It’s just surprising that I saw it twice within about a month. The other thing I found kind of jarring was at about the 28, 30 minute mark where. There’s a TV show playing on a monitor while Bix is kind of zoned out. This is new to my knowledge within the Star Wars universe.

We don’t see much in the way of other media or television specifically, or branding or advertisements, really. It’s one of the things that set it apart from other cyberpunk shows, and again, thinking of like Blade Runner here and the neon signs and billboards everywhere, that idea of a Diegetic TV show, one serving as an entertainment, has largely been absent in a show about the Wars. Naturally, I guess.

Overall Cassian isn’t too impressed by what he sees out of the Ghormans and soon gets a pickup from Luthen and I kind of popped when we see him setting up for and cruising into hyperspace. It’s assumed to exist in the setting, but it’s kind of a treat when we don’t see it much.

Luthen’s got some problems and Cassian not doing his job is only one of them. For Luthen, one of the bugs planted in a forged piece of art might be discovered when an audit has done of the work. So he has one chance to get it out. And meanwhile Saw Gerrera, in between shouting “comrades” after killing a traitor and shouting “revolution is not for the sane” has plans to switch targets on a different heist.

And of course, the Ghormans are being led into going through with their heist too. Despite Cassian’s misgivings, they are of course being baited into it by Nedra from afar, telling your commander that “they need to see what winning feels like”. So we have a triple heist coming together in the final episode.

How exciting. This is where the Gordon Lightfoot reference comes in. It’s time for the party.

And a party it is indeed, with episode six titled “What a Festive Evening”, AKA “Calibrate Your Enthusiasm” and when that line was uttered by the ISB leader, Major Partagaz, I nearly lost it. It was something right out of Demolition Man, where Wesley Snipes was asked, “what’s your boggle”? but does this connection make any sense? I don’t think so. Maybe only to me, but I chortled heartily and my enthusiasm was set to the max.

We’ve got multiple heists going on and a party happening too, so let’s get into it. This is where we get that lovely Blade Runner-esque shot of Coruscant with the flying cars coming in for a landing at the top of the building, touching down and departing, and the wealth disparity is clearly on display.

The party is mostly for the elite, though not all of them may be enjoying it. Showing that politics is pretty much the same everywhere, earlier on in the episode, Pen Firtha tells us that it’s going to be “hard to stuff a whole year’s worth of insincerity into three nights”. But Mon Mothma tells him, “he’ll figure it out”.

We cut to the Senate with some aliens making a speech. And if you had told me in 2004 that I would pop for the Imperial Senate to show up in a Star Wars Show again, I might have given you a bit of a side eye. But it does happen. And again, later when the party actually takes place, we see Senator Organa and I kind of pop for that too.

Seeing this episode on the same night as the 2025 Met Gala, I was getting kick out of seeing the party and the distinction wasn’t lost. That dualism that we’re seeing throughout the show in both season one and two, the high life and the low life, and what it is like for the elites and then the regular citizens of the Empire and these regular citizens are sometimes.

Imperial officers as well. It holds true for them too. As several of the officers who end up in the attendance realize this isn’t really a regular occurrence and they may never be back and they should enjoy the festivities. They’re there by dint of their position and is for the most part, an upper class party.

Not everyone is in attendance at the party; Cassian is sitting this one out. Luthen calls him out explicitly telling him “This fury, this lack of control is violating every protocol we live by”. Luthen thinks Cassian needs to think like a leader with respect to the Ghorman, something that he is definitely not doing.

And so the heists take place without him. In his place on Ghorman are Vel and Cinta, the very capable lovers from the heist arc we saw in episodes four to six of season one. So we have that mirror once again. Their reunion is touching, but it starts to feel like a Top Gun level of foreshadowing like Danny Glover saying he’s getting too old for this and is set to retire.

I haven’t seen Top Gun however, so my reference was actually Lieutenant Junior Grade Pete “Dead Meat” Thompson from Hot Shots. Instead, mentally I kept thinking he was portrayed by John Cryer, but he played Wash Out instead.

Vel is sent to help the Ghorman’s with the prep, but as they state during the planning sessions, “that prep is useless if you can’t follow orders”, and this is feeling like a rejected Batman lecture to Robin on prep time or just some more foreshadowing.

We return to the party when Luthen’s assistant Kleya is getting the job done. She’s a little bit ruthless, and she’s working on “the Book of the Blind” end quote, to remove the bug. There’s some symbolism there of the bug embedded in that particular book. And while this is happening, we have a sighting of one of the Imperial big boys, and this, again, feels like a parallel to our own planet, where the high ranking elites of the Imperials move through the party with ease and are accustomed to this life of luxury.

Krennic is talking about quote: “how insurgencies have a long history of puffing up their failures and. Criminals love to lie. Who wants to die for lawless ineptitude?” and the show goes right out to state it. I think it was Luthen who said: “My rebel is your terrorist. Something like that.” Obiwan is here in spirit, even though he is very much alive on Tatoonine in this timeline, but you know, letting us know it’s all about the point of view.

Kleya gets the job done just in time, and the other heist is going off relatively smoothly too, though the imperials are monitoring things via Syril, who’s on a bridge with a pair of goggles, and for the most part are just letting things proceed.

The only hitch is in the Ghormans themselves. As the line about prep comes home to roost, then they either wander off due to a lack of discipline or interfere, and in the confusion, Cinta gets shot with a blaster. A blaster that wasn’t supposed to be there, and the Ghorman heist becomes a pyrrhic victory.

We finish off with Bix going into the revenge business against Inigo Montoya’s advice, and she tracks down her torture and locks him into his own device if only for a moment.  Her attempt to leave was slowed down for about as long as Indiana Jones facing a swordsman in a marketplace takes, and Cassian helps with the explosive finish as we get the Robert Rodriguez slow-walk away from an explosion for the closer, but it feels cyberpunk as heck. Now we’ve gotta wait a year to find out what happens next.

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